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> But you have to actually learn how to use them.

This probably is the issue for me, I am simply not willing to do so. To me the whole AI thing is extremely dystopian so even on a professional level I feel repulsed by it.

We had an AWS and a Cloudflare outage recently, which has shown that maybe it isn't a great idea to rely on a few companies for a single _thing_. Integrating LLMs and using all these tools is just another bridge people depend on at some point.

I want to write software that works, preferably even offline. I want tools that do not spy on me (referring to that new Google editor, forgot the name). Call me once these tools work offline on my 8GB RAM laptop with a crusty CPU and I might put in the effort to learn them.





> We had an AWS and a Cloudflare outage recently, which has shown that maybe it isn't a great idea to rely on a few companies for a single _thing_.

I share that concern about massive, unforced centralization. If there were any evidence for the hypothesis that LLM inference would always remain viable in datacenters only, I'd be extremely concerned about their use too.

But from all I've seen, it seems overwhelmingly likely that we'll have very powerful ones in our phones in at most a few years, and definitely in midrange laptops and above.


I'd be all for it if its truly disconnected from big tech entities.

> This probably is the issue for me, I am simply not willing to do so.

Thanks for being honest at least. So many HN arguments start as a desire to hate something and then try to bridge that into something that feels like a takedown of the merits of that thing. I think a lot of the HN LLM hate comes from people who simply want to hate LLMs.

> We had an AWS and a Cloudflare outage recently, which has shown that maybe it isn't a great idea to rely on a few companies for a single _thing_. Integrating LLMs and using all these tools is just another bridge people depend on at some point.

For an experienced dev using LLMs as another tool, an LLM outage isn’t a problem. You just continue coding.

It’s on the level of Google going down so you have to use another search engine or try to remember the URL for something yourself.

The main LLM players are also easy to switch between. I jump between Anthropic, Google, and OpenAI almost month to month to try things out. I could have subscriptions to all 3 at the same time and it would still be cheap.

I think this point is overblown. It’s not a true team dependency like when GitHub stop working a few days back.




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