Thanks for commenting and to whoever up voted. I was told in another post that this was a useless post. Also thinks we should not be posting youtube links. Glad to think some think it was a worthwhile contribution.
What is worse is those bosses who do not know anything about what is going on in their companies, are getting bonuses off the performances of the workers doing task that they their bosses has no clue they are doing for them. Seems backwards
No matter what people say or how bad things are for you, be thankful for you health and for all that you do have. There are many in much more dire circumstances than we are in. I have had to keep reminding myself of this, today especially.
it kept coming back to submit page? The submission ask if the thread filled flames of newbie startup entrepeneur was harmful to other newbie startup trying to learn the ropes and who only come here for seeking support, network and info? Is it good to accuse them of any other intention then that?
Just an FYI. I have a community website that is for the Parents, cadets, family and friends of a military service academy (nothing to do with my startup), I cannot imagine my members treating each other the way I have been treated in just one thread. Also, ON our site we encourage each other to posts, not discourage them so we too can have content and discussion worth while.
Just because this is a extremely active site, should not be a reason for people that have the power, to do everything in their power, to shut down a newbies good intentions!
Your community site obviously has very different goals than Hacker News. Hacker News's primary value is in having a very high signal:noise ratio - the only way that can continue is by having a very strong community-enforced standard for what counts as 'noise'.
Your community site, I'd guess, is largely about providing support for parents and family of cadets - that's an entirely different set of goals and requires an entirely different set of community values.
It would be a mistake to assume that all communities on the internet behave the same way.
Agreed. But it is still does not make it appropriate or right to question one intention, publicly, on a site that is set up for s specific purpose, with out finding out info about them, and to flame them if they think their intention are other than what the site is here for, and to pile on by down voting all of ones post, even from days ago.
I disagree most strongly. It absolutely does make it appropriate to question your intentions because you were behaving in a manner which went against the long-established norms of this site.
I imagine that anti-war activists probably aren't very welcome on your military cadet site. If I appeared and talked about how the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is illegal and US troops keep shooting civilians and their allies, it wouldn't be very popular.
People might question my intentions, publicly, on a site that is set up for a specific purposes. They might read back over other comments I'd made that were more borderline and read them with a new context, where they were simply being ignored before.
Ultimately, you behaved inappropriately and don't seem to want to acknowledge that. You created this issue and have fanned the flames to make it worse.
Perhaps this is a really important lesson to learn for your business too: when you screw up, own the mistake. Don't try and weasel your way around it, admit it fully and completely and talk about how you can improve to ensure it doesn't happen again.
If you can't even do that on a discussion site, I wouldn't want to trust that you'd do it when you make a mistake in your business.
Perhaps you should consider changing what you post, then? Most of the comments you've left have exactly the same style/tone, and it's a very self-serving and self-entitled one.
It might be better to listen for a while and stop posting more comments complaining about down-voting - the more of those you post the worse your average score will be (because you can be sure that a comment complaining about down-voting will never be voted up much).
Are you sure you are being voted down like you claim ?
In my experience HN'ers are quite restrained in their downvotes. Apart from a few of your comments in this thread that got downvoted I don't see any major downvoting trend going on.
And about those comments: I do not have the karma to downvote anyone and I haven't till before this thread felt the need for such rights. But some of your comments did come off as immature and needlessly argumentative, to the point of refusing to listen to what everyone is saying to you and blaming everything on being a newbie.
when you have zeros next to your post and when you are watching your karma go up and down as much as 5 points, depending on when you posted, then your are being voted. down. Only reason I am being voted down if because someone or a few think I am here for other reason beside just wanting to get may startup going and just trying to figure it all out. Just leave me alone already.
Great Idea! And I do spend time making sure that people who submit about the same time I do have up voted points. Also try and leave a comment on one that are worth wile that may be a few pages back just so it is seen. I think more people should do this as well.
OK so, Now I am getting the system: Flame A person for being a newbie, Collect as many up points as you can by doing so then, follow that newbie around and down vote everything they post? Do I have that straight? I just want to be sure.
Careful... You are bordering on being inflammatory with your sarcastic questions. Having read all of your posts/replies, you are close to what people would call a troll.
From wikipedia - In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
As I am sure this is not the intention you have, please be a bit more careful. We are all friends here. No need for sarcastic questions or inflammatory messages.
but post and threads publicly flaming someone for making newbies mistakes does give you a lot of karma love I see.