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Sometimes manufacturing consent is a little easier than other times.

Being forced to run advertisements because one political party in particular decided being unbeholden to corporate interests is a dangerous thing for a news organization to be.

When student debt becomes dischargeable, market forces will finally price degrees according to their actual economic value relative to the risk of poor returns. Currently, that price discovery is broken; the cost of a degree bears almost no relationship to its real-world payoff. No need for degree seizure to correct it. Lenders can decide for themselves which degrees lead to returns, which in turn provides degree seekers with actual financial signals instead of vibes-based "go into programming" propaganda from FAANG.

It is hard to understand how we can import unskilled labor and not have that impact the value of unskilled labor domestically.

Unskilled labor is a myth. When we kicked out all the agricultural workers, it wasn’t just that it’s hard to find replacements, the replacements also learned how hard it is to actually do that kind of actually skilled work.

We're going with "unskilled labor is a myth"? Really? You could have given me 1 million guesses and I never would have come up with that. Unskilled labor is not a myth. It's a description of work that requires a shorter amount of training time for someone to be able to do the work, as opposed to, say, a dentist who needs years of schooling. Jobs where the primary requirements are physicality often qualify, with professional sports being a notable exception.

And if the work is really hard so no one wants to do it, labor markets generally have a pretty reliable mechanism for correcting that situation by raising prices. You could argue that higher food prices would be a problem, but you can't argue that imported labor doesn't impact it. No "study" will ever prove that importing labor doesn't suppress wages or that "unskilled labor is a myth".


And also to drege up "think of the children" rage that makes some people demand expansion of surveillance and free exchange of serveillance data with governments. Manufacturing consent.

That's exactly right. Meanwhile these are the kinds of things that DHS is being pulled off of so they can spend more time harassing latinos.

It seems to me that the BBC is including those passages at the beginning and end of their story as propaganda so the public begs (demands, even) for more surveillance, and the sale of private data to the government. I mean, think of the children, like Lucy! Seems to be having that effect in this thread, in any case.

It’s absolutely propaganda and a perfect example of how the public gets manipulated on a daily basis. Let’s break down the facts:

- Pushes for facial recognition

- Pushes for more state run surveillance

- Pushes for AI based surveillance

- Pushes for greater data collection, access & mining

- Legitimises it all under the classic “save the kids” meme and pushes emotionally hard for more.

The main issues i’ve seen discussed on HN the last couple of months have been critical of the never ending and increasing government surveillance. Both sides of the pond. This is their answer.

Simultaneously we’re hearing about how almost anybody and everybody beyond a level of power was well aware of industial level sex trafficking and abuse, and either totally turned a blind eye or joined in.

The article might carry some weight if it wasn’t from an authoritarian state backed organisation that’s very well known for covering up for, and protecting multiple famous high level sexual criminals within it’s own organisation, spanning multiple decades, that has never faced any real audit, investigation or justice for its own crimes.


It's only a "startlingly clear rebuttal" if you can't remember what models months ago were like.

I copied/pasted a comment with faulty logic (self-defeating) directly from a HN comment and asked a bunch of models available to me (Gemini and Claude) if it could spot the issue. I figured it would be a nice test of reasoning since an actual human missed it. The only one that found the logic error without help was Claude 4.6 Opus Extending Thinking. The others at best raised relevant counterpoints in the supporting argument but couldn't identify the central issue. Claude's answer seemed miles ahead. I wonder if SotA advancements will continue to distinguish themselves.

Care to share the comment in question with the rest of us so we can check for ourselves? :-)

The top reasoning models suggest taking a car to the car wash.

Not 100% of time according to comments.

SotA doesn't matter, though. Only the first couple of time derivatives matter. Looking good for the clankers, not so much for us...

> And yet they have trouble knowing that a person should take their car to a car wash.

SotA models don't.


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