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That's a good post but we don't even need this post to tell of her incredible power of smashing great things. I wish to see her in the next Shehulk movie.


His successor looks like a mess to the gaming section.


Metaverse is still alive!


I now need to deliberately choose the sites I browse to avoid those that work with the stupid closeAI?


wow, is openAI such a great magic to you?


Name another company that makes debatably the best consumer laptops?


There is no undebatably best consumer laptop for the simple reason that different users have different requirements and priorities.

And for some, things that Apple do are a no go. Like glued parts, limited Linux support, no OLED screens, no post buy upgradability, overpriced RAM upgrades, limited and finicky multimonitor support for most models.

So clearly it is debatable and depends on who you ask.


Yep, everyone has different requirements and things they'll put up with. Personally, the touchpad on my Dell laptop is absolutely terrible, but it's not hard to get a wireless (or wired) mouse and plug that in, so I can have a reasonably-priced laptop that works well with Linux.


> limited and finicky multimonitor support for most models.

I’ve never had an issue, and I regularly plug in one or two at a time. Even two that lie and say they are the same monitor with same serial and it still just works. Although, only after m1 and beyond.


Yeah and you can't plug in a third. I'd call that limited


I plugin a third just fine.


You have to get a 3999€ max for that right?

I threw them all together in my mind and didn't check the display capabilities of the max MB.


I got a Max in the 14” notebook, yeah, but not 3999€ for me at least.


How about I name a company that sold us a laptop that required 7 motherboard replacements, and after the 8th time it crapped out they told us it would cost $1200 to fix it from then on out. We signed up on a class action lawsuit along with tons of other people having the same exact dead motherboard problem, and we won.

The company was Apple.


Curious, was that laptop running with nvidia?

Because the reason Apple really dislikes nvidia was because nvidia sort of lied about the thermal spec (much like intel does, except intel could downclock); and it caused a lot of GPUs to kill their motherboards: https://blog.greggant.com/posts/2021/10/13/apple-vs-nvidia-w...


That was in 2012, right?

Their hardware has got a whole lot better in the past 12 years.

My guess is that they learned important quality lessons from that class action lawsuit too.


We’ve had our share of Dell lemons, too. Bad batches and problematic models happen, that’s life. If we have to go back 10 years to find an example of widespread problem, it’s not that bad.


Yeah, and now you know why Apple hasn't sourced NVIDIA stuff for years now, too.


And NVIDIA is now worth more than Apple, lol.


Obviously, openAI is a cheaper and better option for Apple to use AI in their devices for the time being. Once they have their own AI, or the AI hype subsides, they'll kick openAI.


EU to take security risks on their own?


Never buy anything from Amazon. I have been doing this for 2 years. It feels great.


A new prototype from Gogle for collecting user data and will be dumped anytime soon once it collects enough data or it fails.


Woof. Talk about a bad reputation exemplified. I can't imagine what it's like working on stuff like this at Google, earnestly just trying to make a great product people will want to use, only to have to fight decades of user-hostile product destruction that the company has done.


Take a look at Instagram's Threads. They had 100M users in a few days. Do you think people around the world really care about data being used?

On a related note, I am sad about the state of HN comments, which resembles Reddit more and more.

The blog post specifically mentions the data is private and won't be used to train models, which can't be said about the ChatGPT based tools which do this, but yet, here we have people not bothering to read and just write a cliched comment about "collecting user data".


I don't think the audience here cares as much about the data. I think people here (myself included) are mostly just deeply cynical about how Google will handle this product long-term. Why invest time into using it when it's going to just get yoinked in a year or two?


Isn't the solution to it -- use Google product if it's superior and won't fuck you if its abandoned? Instead of not using it because it may be abandoned, if those products instead get more users, it is less likely to be abandoned.

I mean, purely considering this product, isn't it also likely for some ChatGPT extension which provides similar feature to also be abandoned, or to have privacy or quality issues?


Only us big nerds on Hacker News actually pay attention to this or care.

Most people never even hear about this stuff. From what I understand, in the Google world, you release a product, you get a promotion. So, as cynical as it is, and everyone in Google knows, their product will get cancelled eventually.

Screw it, I got a promotion, I got some money. It's good for my career.


Maybe if Google wanted to have a better reputation they wouldn't habitually kill products.


Because it's always either a data grabber or a soon-to-be-killed service


it is either a data grabber or a promo grabber


Not so much “user data” as “let the plebs collect AI training materials for us”.


Promos to be had by all


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