I mean it's obviously all about funding the right projects isn't it? Going to an obviously hyperbolic extreme for the sake of the argument, say that the EU invested billions in determining if the moon is really made of cheese then that's obviously a waste of money even if it is a scientific investment.
There's a non negligible amount of people, even those who have worked at CERN previously, saying that it just doesn't make sense to put more investment into a new supercollider which might just show that there's an energy desert of particles in the regime it's testing.
You're also falling prey to the fallacy that HN acts as a single entity, in reality everyone here has different opinions and can't just be all lumped in one bucket saying HN thinks this or that. It's obviously going to seem contradictory if you view it as if it's a single person
==I mean it's obviously all about funding the right projects isn't it?==
So is everything in life, but that doesn't help us actually determine which are the "right projects".
==Going to an obviously hyperbolic extreme for the sake of the argument, say that the EU invested billions in determining if the moon is really made of cheese then that's obviously a waste of money even if it is a scientific investment.==
That you have to go to such a ridiculous argument seems to say something about your stance. What would we learn if we discovered the moon was made of cheese? Why would it matter? What is the scientific impact of a cheese moon? Without those answers it isn't really a scientific investment.
==There's a non negligible amount of people, even those who have worked at CERN previously, saying that it just doesn't make sense to put more investment into a new supercollider which might just show that there's an energy desert of particles in the regime it's testing.==
And a non-negligible amount of people, even those who currently work at CERN, think it is worthwhile. We could play this game all day (which is my entire point). If the test fails, we still get to learn something new. A foundation of the scientific method.
==You're also falling prey to the fallacy that HN acts as a single entity, in reality everyone here has different opinions and can't just be all lumped in one bucket saying HN thinks this or that. It's obviously going to seem contradictory if you view it as if it's a single person==
You seem to be falling prey to the fallacy that all people who worked at CERN act as a single entity. In reality, people who have worked at CERN have different opinions. Similarly, I've seen many posts about how HN is a hive mind. I guess that is just when it suits the narrative.
Is the BBC being paid for by taxpayers really a problem that people have? Seems like American "capitalism good, socialism bad" rubbish that non ideologues know to ignore. Why would the business structure of a website impact the quality of articles?
I think the issue people have with the BBC are that it is very much controlled by the government/elite. This is the case for most British media though - compared to the US there isn't anywhere near the level of independence.
My first thought upon seeing that comment was "there's no way a Brit wrote that".
I know the BBC has its critics here in the UK, but I've never seen any one of them conflate it with socialism before. Just reading that sentence forced me to do a double-take...
I'm sorry you feel the need to retract my nationality.
It was a joke, by the way. There are some hardcore free-market libertarians here really who do make criticisms like that. Isn't monotone sarcasm just as much a part of Britishness as the BBC?
It is, but you have to laugh out loud after you tell a joke to make sure everyone knows it's a joke.
There was something about that in The Name of the Rose- the book in any case. Something about how Englishmen and Germans react differently to a joke etc. I'll see if I can find a quote.
Your first point makes sense but your second just isn't comparable in any way at all seeing as Baghdad is literally one of the most inhospitable places to live at the moment
Surely richer people can more effectively self isolate? Less likely to be a key worker, can easily get items delivered to house, more likely to be able to exercise at home etc
> If she was a 45 year old accountant trying to take a stand on climate change I don't think she would be trotted out like this.
Because she inspired many other kids her age to start speaking up and do something. I can clearly remember when I was 16 and started to realize how bad the grown ups were actually at implementing all these things they thought me I should value. Starts with democracy and goes to environmentalism.
On a symbolic level she represents the generations who will get the blunt of it. The generations that will have to battle all of that mess the generations before them created.
I don't really see, why her decision to use that publicity should be any kind of valid critizism really, unless it is meant to be an ad hominem attack to avoid talking about the topic.
No, it's particularly striking that a high-school age girl has taken the initiative to start such large protests and raise awareness about the issue and about the fact that something needs to be done yesterday. More generally, we find young people protesting and taking action against irresponsible, greedy, amoral "45-year olds" (as you put it) that yield the power and use it to enrich themselves at the cost of a trashed planet for the next generation.
I think it's pretty obvious what the message here is: the (older) politicians and business men are incompetent or corrupt, the powerless youngsters are showing themselves to be infinitely more responsible. It's a striking image.
There's a non negligible amount of people, even those who have worked at CERN previously, saying that it just doesn't make sense to put more investment into a new supercollider which might just show that there's an energy desert of particles in the regime it's testing.
You're also falling prey to the fallacy that HN acts as a single entity, in reality everyone here has different opinions and can't just be all lumped in one bucket saying HN thinks this or that. It's obviously going to seem contradictory if you view it as if it's a single person