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Knowledge which is described by true false statements can not be conscious experience, true and the essay just says our subjective conscious experience is only a representation of the true/false statements experienced by us as a private language


And complexity of that subjective experience is what takes us towards a description of consciousness.


This document presents an opinion piece about a standardized/objective description of consciousness given in a definite manner.Its propositions might seem to share aspects with Karl Friston's hypothesis of brains as Bayesian inference machines , Wittgenstein's private language discussions and Tononi's usage of a complexity metric in Integrated Information Theory (IIT).


Haven't read this completely though, but the arguments presented in these quoted passages does seem to suggest that the above posted model of consciousness is a refined method saying the same things as , consciousness is related to complexity and the internal model(evolved for evolutionary purposes)which is evolving over time (it might also be considered an analogue of subjective experience as presented in the paper).The contents of this debate seem to agree with what is being said in the consciousness model presented above, feel free to express any thoughts or questions about if the desire arises.


Thanks for the update,

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tmd_3DXbnC2YovDHuMslTs68...

This link is working, in case the there is a desire to check it out


This document presents an opinion piece about a standardized/objective description of consciousness given in a definite manner.Its propositions might seem to share aspects with Karl Friston's hypothesis of brains as Bayesian inference machines , Wittgenstein's private language discussions and Tononi's usage of a complexity metric in Integrated Information Theory (IIT).


This document presents an opinion piece about a standardized/objective description of consciousness given in a definite manner.Its propositions might seem to share aspects with Karl Friston's hypothesis of brains as Bayesian inference machines , Wittgenstein's private language discussions and Tononi's usage of a complexity metric in Integrated Information Theory (IIT).


This document presents an opinion piece about a standardized/objective description of consciousness given in a definite manner.Its propositions might seem to share aspects with Karl Friston's hypothesis of brains as Bayesian inference machines , Wittgenstein's private language discussions and Tononi's usage of a complexity metric in Integrated Information Theory (IIT).


So is it a definition or an opinion piece about a definition?

What do you mean by "given in a definite manner"?

It's also unreadable on a phone and apparently you've already posted it many times.

I'd suggest first clearing the mark of creating a readable web document if you want to define (self-) consciousness.


It does seem to need some edits, might take some time,any thoughts on the propositions made in it ?


This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT usage of a complexity metric(amount of information) for measurement purposes with some subtleties of of it's own to add .

The part about choosing a method of measuring complexity seems to be something that can be looked over by a logician to get it refined for the models usage, some thought experiments with conjectures are there in that regard which might be worth looking into or to check their validity.

It seems there is a possibility for curation of a Complexity measuring method here,and the type that is required might be of interest to a logician/complexity theorist


This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT usage of a complexity metric(amount of information) for measurement purposes with some subtleties of of it's own to add .

The part about choosing a method of measuring complexity seems to be something that can be looked over by a logician to get it refined for the models usage, some thought experiments with conjectures are there in that regard which might be worth looking into or to check their validity.


Any explanation on this?


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