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I find the idea that IntelliJ being a job killer hard to believe, just like when some of my colleagues used to think Dreamweaver would wipe out frontend development - or 'HTML slicing', as we called it back then.


Yeah, that's weird; IntelliJ was more like "this is how amazing and friction-free Java development and refactoring can be". Enabling more ppl to be 10x programmers, not putting ppl out of work.


I actually posted with that title. Not sure what happend.

@dang could perhaps help?


The title of the blog post is "A Series of Vignettes From My Childhood and Early Career". The heading for the first section is "The Death of Software Engineering as a Profession". It makes sense to me to use the title of the blog post, not one of the section headings.


I posted this link after reading all the way. Jason actually makes a good point - its just that this title is loud. Blog post itself isn't claiming the death of software engineering at all. If anything, it just shows that every five or ten years someone claims software engineering is dead.

Its not dead at all and it wont die either.

Why? chagpt, or figma or v0 can spin up a few pages of brochure site, even some blog posting level web apps, basic cruds you know. But I don't think it will replace full software engineering.

I work with a large codebase, thats almost 30 years old, multiple framework ( backbone, react, angular) and then java, python for backends. All from different phases and everything is stitched together to make it work, and have a well profit making business going on. There is no model or chatxyz that can dig throug all these connected apps and services and replace our engineering team. It helps us here and there- yeah a lot.


Its just the title, I have read the post texts before posting, he actually says its here to say dispite mainstream claiming coding is dead every other five year.


Yea I think Calhoun also read the article before posting, and agrees with you; they meant the full title should be

> "The Death of Software Engineering as a Profession" ... is greatly exaggerated.

As in "is greatly exaggerated" is part of the title

They did not mean the title should be

> The Death of Software Engineering as a Profession

and that they think the thesis is greatly exaggerated.


For today’s lucky 10,000– @JKCalhoun is most likely making reference here to American humorist Mark Twain, who, in response to news stories claiming he had died, was reported to have quipped “reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.”

[0] https://quoteinvestigator.com/2024/06/07/report-death/


Software engineering isn’t dead and won’t be dead from LLMs, I have no fear of that, but coding by hand may become as usually unnecessary as coding in assembly is now.

And I think that’s ok.


Besides what Sam Altman wants everyone to believe, there isn't a lot of evidence what you're saying is true. My experience with LLMs hasn't borne it out, and I also don't think it's okay -- I LIKE writing software!


Came here to say this - have hosted a few meetings now with this and now I am so relieved.


Oh! I so wish this was an actual pocket iphone.


Doesn't work in firefox, nor in Safari!


Eh? Why the lobste.rs?



Ah yeah but my sony xperia isn't supported!


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