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Globalizing the intifada means pushing an agenda everywhere, including on HN, on posts where it is relevant and on posts where some obscure or conspiratorial connection can be made.

If HN is going to allow accusations to be slung against groups of people it has to allow others to respond, and that sets off endless debate amongst people who will not be changing their minds on the matter but will repeat the same argument on the next post.


Every Israel Palestine story was like that. Just hundreds of back & forth exchanges of fire that could be copy pasted from the last story, along with copious complaints that HN was censoring them even though the story was on the front page. Just a complete waste of time, and very dishonest & unserious people.


They will do well despite your hate, because they value human life and focus on creation instead of obsessing over hating others.


In your vision, can Jews live on the other side of the border?


As long as they accept to live under a Palestinian state. (Normally immigration should have a path to citizenship and voting rights, but both Israel and Palestine would want to preserve the national nature of their states, as Israel already does).


How many Jews live under Palestinian control at the moment?


I have no idea, but it's funny that some people think this is a smart question that will make them score a point.

Why would Jews want to live as the Palestinians in the West Bank or Gaza, when that means living under occupation, being subjected to Israeli military law, being powerless against settlers violence and the prepotence of Israel? And what would they do, immigrate there from New York and start a farm, with a pinky promise that they won't turn into settlers and seek to join Israel?

And of course it would be risky, when they are so easily associated with the settlers and the occupying power- no point in denying it.

Nonetheless, there are entire large Palestinian clans that claim to descend from Jews and retain some of their customs: a famous example is the Makhamra family.


Jews that became Muslim are not a good counter-example.

Jews who haven’t converted to Islam have been ethnically cleansed from the West Bank by Jordan when they occupied it, and this apartheid is maintained by the Palestinian Authority. Anyone visibly Jewish who enters areas under total PA control gets arrested (or lynched).

Why can’t Jews live under Palestinian authority the same way Muslims live in Israel? This racism has led to a situation where the only way the Jews of the West Bank can be safe is by having an IDF presence.

Your “fears” of Jews turning into settlers are no different to the Islamophobes who say Muslims who come to live in western countries will turn them into caliphates.


And what happened to Israelis who wanted to take a stroll through Gaza (prior to October 7, of course)?


What makes you think that Israelis can just "take a stroll" in a foreign country without asking permission (passport, visa, etc.)?

Anyway, there are Jewish journalists who have visited and spent time in Gaza. Here's Dan Cohen (precisely on the topic of safety of Jews in Gaza):

https://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/jewish-reporter-responds/#sth...

Here's Max Blumenthal:

https://globalvoices.org/2014/08/16/journalists-visit-gaza-t...

Here's Anthony Loewenstein:

https://mondoweiss.net/2009/07/hope-lives-in-gaza-despite-si...

Then there is Amira Hass, who actually lives in Ramallah and has reported from Gaza. These are the ones I know, there are certainly others.


When did Gaza become a country?


Both sides have had family and people killed and can view the other as evil by this reasoning.


Have they? The Iron Dome blocks almost all Hamas rockets. The trauma suffered by Gazans is hearing the voices of their friends and family under collapsed buildings slowly fade away. The trauma suffered by Israelis is that sometimes there's a siren and they have to run to a bomb shelter just in case, which is also how the Japanese deal with earthquakes.


I don’t think it’s helpful to minimise anyone’s suffering. There are many deaths and permanent injuries on both sides.

But to your point about seeing the other as evil, living with missile shields and walls to guard against the terrors living on the other side, who have made it clear that would love to kill you if they can, has the same psychological effect you mentioned.


This. And next word prediction / autocorrect that doesn’t look like it’s from the previous century.


On both my nokia and my blackberry it was far far better than on my iphone. That wasn't quite 199X but pretty close.

I wish the iphone had word prediction and autocorrect that was from the previous centruy


BlackBerry's keyboards & autocorrect were top notch. Nothing has matched it yet when using a pure virtual touch screen keyboard.

Crazy he had pretty much perfected the tech of typing out text on a smartphone and then decided to throw it all away by moving to all-screen devices instead. A virtual keyboard with no tactile feel will never compare until we can have screens that can recreate the tactile bumps of a physical keyboard.


Apple autocorrect has gotten actually worse over the last decade. Before it used to be duck instead of a similar sounding word and it took one action to correct it. Now it’s just fuschia and it takes 5 mins to correct the correction to the autocorrect.


I agree with this sentiment. It was so annoying that I turned auto correct off. I found that writing on iPhone has got worse as well, or at least it's my own observation. On the other hand, voice dictation has improved quite a bit that I can just dictate into my phone when needed. For more serious work I use a work device not a consumption one.


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