Was that the trick? When copying the text, it is also >=, which is why an online search or AI tools probably give the wrong answer as the article asserts. If you correct the code then at least Claude gives the right answer.
The specs look impressive. It is always good to have competition.
They announced tapeout in October with planned dev boards next year. Vaporware is when things don’t appear, not when they are on their way (it takes some time for hardware).
It’s also strategically important for Europe to have its own supply. The current and last US administration have both threatened to limit supply of AI chips to European countries, and China would do the same (as they have shown with Nexperia).
And of course you need the software stack with it. They will have thought of that.
These kinds of things-- cheaper-than-NVIDIA cards that can produce a lot of tokens or run large models cheaply are absolutely necessary to scale text models economically.
Without things like these-- those Euclyd things, those Groq things, etc. no one will be able to offer up big models at prices where people will actually use them, so lack of things like this actually cripples training of big models too.
If the price/token graph is right, this would mean 2.5x more tokens, which presumably means actually using multiple prompts to refine something before producing the output, or to otherwise produce really long non-output sequences during the preparation the output. This also fits really well with the Chinese progress in LLM RL for maths. I suspect all that stuff is totally general and can be applied to non-maths things too.
The negativity doesn’t make much sense. The specs are strong, and the chip already taped out in October that’s a concrete milestone, not vaporware. Hardware of this class always takes months between tape-out and dev boards.
Official announcement: https://vsora.com/vsora-announces-tape-out-of-game-changing-...
Strategically, having a European AI inference chip matters. The US has already threatened export limits to Europe, and China has shown similar behavior (e.g., Nexperia). Building local supply is important.
Calling this vaporware makes no sense: tape-out + published roadmap = real, not slides.
> Calling this vaporware makes no sense: tape-out + published roadmap = real, not slides.
I agree that the comments here are surprisingly superficial in their complaints, but I guess it the typical bike-shedding, people don't have technical points to nitpick or the experience to judge the actual product, so from their US-based point of view, they find something else to hook on to, even when there are facts like concrete partnerships making it clear it isn't vaporware, they just have to say something.
If the company is working in isolation (this company is not), the company is continuously pushing back on time frames (they haven't, at least yet), the company never enter actual fabrication/production (which they just did) or if the company never release any details what so ever (they have), then it looks more like vaporware than just "It'll be coming soon".
If those things are true in ~6 months, then I'll join the crowd here who are overly pessimistic at this moment, but until then, as most of the time, I'll give them benefit of the doubt.
I don't believe labeling healthy skepticism and criticism as negativity to farm artificial sympathy in retaliation, does any good to anyone.
Humans have pattern recognition capabilities for a reason, and if a company is triggering that in them, then it's best expressed why(probably because they saw this MO before and got burned) instead of just cheerleading the unknown for fake positivity.
6th comment: "They haven't disclosed any release date, Lots of chip startups start as this kind of vaporware" (they did literally just enter fabrication it seems)
10th comment: "So far, they just talk about it."
Maybe it looks differently now, after 14 hours since the submission was made, but initially yesterday, most of the comments were unfounded (and poorly researched) criticism.
If it was submitted 14 hours ago that is start of night in Europe (the target market). So the 9-5 target market was mostly asleep, while USA was getting home from work. China was getting awake. If the article was submitted 5-6 hours earlier or 7-8 hours later, the outcome would've differed.
Since it seems like a French company, I can think of various European customers who would be interested in using their hardware, or even investing in this company. For starters, government, defense industry, IT (including infosec). European defense industry is a goldmine right now, the sky is the limit.
>European defense industry is a goldmine right now, the sky is the limit.
Care to detail? Like I'm sure defense stocks and some arms manufacturing is up, but where I live I don't see the tech jobs market being boosted by defense spending.
It all goes slowww. But it is moving forward. You would need a tough screening regardless. Defense is very picky about their contractors. But I can give a hint where the money comes from: 3,5% of BBP has to be for defense, and 1,5% for infra for defense. Many countries were at about 2% before (getting a bit higher due to geopolitical changes early 2022).
Also, think of funding for European tech companies. Governments are getting rid of Microsoft 365 in favor of Nextcloud. Especially Opencloud (Nextcloud, also European, formerly known as nextcloud-go) and Opendesk. It goes slow, partly because of regulations and each country goes for their own local contractor (an expert who speaks the native language).
The victim is going to be our health care system, and general social security system. Because we were able to afford this thanks to NATO, and NATO is now a paper tiger.
Desire to invest in USA has gone down because of Trump, and that money will partly flow to China, partly internal. On the short term, USA has incredible soft power over EU. But on the long term, not so much anymore.
If a company says on their website "We'll have hardware ready this Q1 2026" and a commentator says "They haven't given any timelines anywhere, so most likely vaporware", then I'd consider that unfounded negativity, mostly because it was so trivial to see if that was true or not, probably took me about 2 minutes.
That’s a good overview of the benefits and challenges.
I like the convenience of passkeys, but it adds to my worries of losing or breaking a device.
Does anyone know a good solution that is as easy and portable as handling a KeePass kdbx file? (Without resorting to Apple or Windows backup solutions)
Yubikey looks ok, but they are apparently restricted to 25 keys (why?).
Can someone enlighten me on the economics of such a deal?
From what I know about acquisitions, valuations are in the range of 10-12 times annual EBITDA (or perhaps even profits). This would mean that AOL is making 150 million a year. Is that correct?
It’s been a while but I seem to remember that the first book of Landau-Lifschitz‘ Theroretical Mechanics starts with a 20 page discussion that does this and culminates in the Lagrangian.
I recently got hold of a copy of that. I started Hand & Finch - Analytical Mechanics but their woolly discussion of virtual work and virtual displacement was very frustrating and unenlightening. Perhaps I'll have a better time with L&L.
It's a great introduction to Lagrangian mechanics, but as I recall (it's also been a while for me), the motivation for extremising the action is also somewhat vaguely presented.
Please don’t. HN has just the right information density with its small default font size. In most browsers it is adjustable. And you can pinch-zoom if you’re having trouble hitting the right link.
None of the ”content needs white space and large fonts to breathe“ stuff or having to click to see a reply like on other sites. That just complicates interactions.
And I am posting this on an iPhone SE while my sight has started to degrade from age.
Yeah, I'm really asking for tons of whitespace and everything to breathe sooooo much by asking for the default font size to be a browser default (16px) and updated to match most modern display resolutions in 2025, not 2006 when it was created.
HN is the only site I have to increase the zoom level, and others below are doing the same thing as me. But it must be us with the issues. Obviously PG knew best in 2006 for decades to come.
Yeah, this is like keeping a sound system equalized for one album and asserting that modern mastering is always badly equalized. Tune the system to the standard, and adjust for the oddball until it's remastered.
I'm not a fan of extreme compression and limiting, but doing so in a multiband fashion (as occurs due the loudness war) actually does result in more consistent EQ from album to album, label to label, genre to genre, etc. which virtually eliminates the need to adjust EQ at playback time between each post-war selection.
You're obviously being sarcastic, but I don't think that it's a given that "those are old font-size defaults" means "those are bad font-size defaults." I like the default HN size. There's no reason that my preference should override yours, but neither is there any reason that yours should override mine, and I think "that's how the other sites are" intentionally doesn't describe the HN culture, so it need not describe the HN HTML.
Browser (and OS) zoom settings are for accessibility; use that to zoom out if you've got the eyes for it. Pinching is more about exploring something not expected to be readily seen (and undersized touch targets).
I see it used very much for the wrong purposes though. It's a really mediocre database for example. It allows numbnuts to make really poorly designed stuff that then worms its way into critical business processes.
Microsoft could have worked to make access more accessible to non technical users. But they didn't bother.
This sounds like something the current SCOTUS should be more than happy to shoot down, no? If you're bringing medication for yourself from abroad that you obtained legally, why should the FDA's concerns for your own safety trump (no pun intended) your freedom?
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