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> Are SpaceX rockets a loser for society?

That remains to be seen. By giving Musk the prominence to set up DOGE and destroy USAID, they've indirectly led to the deaths of almost a million people.

By launching starlink, they're also increasing the amount of aluminum in the upper atmosphere, which may have catastrophic effects on the ozone layer.


Do government non-profit spacecraft not use aluminum?

SpaceX rockets also are re-usable, which is environmentally better. They also cost about 10% of what non-profit rockets cost to launch.

> they've indirectly led to the deaths of almost a million people.

DOGE is a non-profit entity. Besides, why can't other non-profit governments pick up the aid?


The problem is the amount of aluminum. Government non-profit spacecraft do not use very much aluminum, because they don't launch thousands of LEO satellites per year. By building the first megaconstellation and kicking off competition, SpaceX is exposing humanity to different risks, namely ozone depletion and new mechanisms of climate change:

[1] https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2024GL10...

[2] https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2024JD04...

> DOGE is a non-profit entity

You seem to be saying that non-profit entities are incapable of killing people? Or that it's fine if non-profit entities do kill people?

> Besides, why can't other non-profit governments pick up the aid?

I think you're being obtuse. An analogy: "Sure I turned off the circuit breaker that was powering the life support machines, but why couldn't someone else bring in a UPS and plug them in to that?"


Government non-profits also have little to no ability to create a starlink system.

To your last point, because DOGE shut down programs in a such a way as to make that impossible, to the point they chose to let food rot, let medicines go bad, and stranded Americans overseas working on the projects without a way home.

It's still a non-profit.

That's debatable. Musk bought his way into politics and shut down USAID very specifically because USAID was investigating him [1]. Oh, and he used his position in DOGE to assist in making sure that government contracts went to his companies, or licensing out his SpaceX workers when his idiocy led to a shortage of air traffic controllers [2], which was very obviously a publicity stunt if nothing else.

So it's a product that was bought and used to enrich a single person. Sure seems like a for-profit to me, at least in this administration.

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/usaid-elon-musk-starlink-probe-ukra...

[2] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...


Still non-profit

Only nominally.

> Apart from it in the era of OSINT satellite imagery, it is no issue to publicize such damage, I don't know of any such imagery

Not sure about other providers, but Planet Labs has applied a 14-day delay to satellite images of the middle east.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/satellite...


There are chinese and russian satellite imagery, but we can also wait two weeks for western sources

In that case, we should definitely reserve judgement on the weird payment stipulations then. The oil industry probably hates that the government is doing this, and we shouldn't cast aspersions on them.

>It's great to see the AI reflect on how it failed. But it's also kind of painful...

Keep in mind that the AI is not reflecting, and it has no idea it made a mistake. It's just generating statistically-likely text for "apology" * "ai did not find results".


IMO you're being unfair; he talked his way into getting paid half a billion dollars for wework, and he's now a billionaire. That's a massive success at capital extraction.


This is too cynical for even a turbo cynic like me.

Basically, you’re saying he mislead investors and got a bunch of money, so those investors see themselves being ripped off as a valuable skill, so they invest in him again. Wut?

I say again — why would investors trust him if his only track record is losing investor money?


I misinterpreted you; I was arguing that he's already succeeded completely, so it doesn't matter if anyone gives him more money.

But, IMO the reason they're still giving him more money is that they're stupid and greedy. They know WeWork was a disaster, but it was a huge disaster. That shows them he's good at running a con, and they want to get in on the next one.

Class solidarity doesn't hurt either. Being a billionaire makes him an actual person in the eyes of other rich people.

EDIT: Also, it's funny you used a16z as an example:

> Not saying you are wrong, but if I am a "capital allocator" at a16z, he would be no-go.

because Andreesen Horowitz are the ones investing in his new WeWork 2.0 startup Flow.


If you know he is good at duping investors then you know he is good at gaining investors, and if you think you will be able to well time your exit you will make a shit ton of money off the other investor's investment. Many investors are just straight up gamblers and risk is just part of the game.

Its like people who invest into a ponzi scheme knowing full well it is a ponzi scheme, just thinking they are smart enough to leave before it all comes crashing down. And once you get enough critical mass, other people will invest based entirely on the fact that there is a lot of other investors and a rising price.


> I say again — why would investors trust him if his only track record is losing investor money?

Because they look at a serial fraudster and see themselves in him.


AI slop. Most of the things on this list are not open hardware, and some of the items are completely proprietary. For example, the SLAMTEC RPLiDAR A1 [1]. This part doesn't even have user-upgradeable firmware.

[1] https://openhardware.directory/devices/slamtec-rplidar-a1


Type 1 fonts are PostScript programs, while OTF and TTF fonts use a turing-complete virtual machine to control hinting, ligatures, etc.


The command module and lunar module each had one AGC. (The lunar module did include a simpler backup computer called the Abort Guidance System.)

I think this is because an AGC failure is recoverable in most phases of flight, while an LVDC failure is not.


America has already failed to defend them. Our deranged president has threatened to invade them, and yet he's still in power.

Has China ever threatened to invade Canada?


The problem is that the data it's visualizing is fake. The color grading is just an AI guessing how susceptible jobs are.


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