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Early-rising New Zealander here (it's 5am folks!).

Bullet points for starters:

1. We are genuinely relaxed people, life is good, weather not too hot or too cold, food easy to get or grow, housing not horribly expensive, healthcare obtainable for all, education as close to free as we can make it and an overall low crime and corruption rate. So the majority of us go to sleep at night, overall, not worried about losing our livelihood one day to the next or not having enough to eat. Similar in this respect to the Northern Europeans.

2. Tall poppy syndrome. We don't like people standing out from the crowd in terms of personality, flamboyance, income - to fit in, you maintain a level of 'bloke/girl next door'. Even if you have tons of money or you are flamboyantly dressy. If not, cue media outcry and attacks, so you move overseas where you can disappear among the masses.

3. Geography! You have no idea how expensive it can be to live here. We work hard to export all our fine goods to you and work harder to import the things we love.

4. The knowledge economy We are messing up here. Internet is too expensive, kids are not getting properly schooled in computing skills and we don't place a high enough value on STEM. If the government really really focused on STEM the next 10 years our next gen kids could have incredible lives, where distance is no barrier thanks to internet access and quality of life is incredible (those mountains, sheep and rivers/lakes are totally as amazing as you see in the photos).


Item 1 + 2 are true for Scandinavia too (except weather).


Yes, as another person who resides in NZ here, this is the problem. Our government doesn't realize just how important the Internet is and high-tech companies are to the economy and does nothing to foster them. The PM often refuses to meet even the largest, most promising tech companies (the biggest three) because he sees most of the countries value in agriculture.

As someone who works in high-tech company, I can't see any reason to stay here once we've got a big enough base to support ourself. We'll probably shift to the US.


Housing is horribly expensive in Auckland and the cost is rising fast. Compared to wages, Auckland's prices are unaffordable. https://www.interest.co.nz/property/69289/barfoot-thompson-r...


Hi, how expensive is it? I mean, I live in Southern California, and a 3 bedroom house 17 miles inland is upwards of $500,000. Checking real estate in NZ, houses can readily be found within blocks of the beach for $300,000 NZD (257,000 USD). Seems like a pretty good deal to me...


Outside of Auckland, it's reasonably affordable. In Auckland, the average price is quite high relative to incomes.

Most of my friends who entered the market recently were looking at prices of between $650k-$850k for something smallish in an OK area.

This was for houses which were not new builds (70s/80s) and would need a bit of work to get up to scratch (insulation, plumbing, kitchen/bathroom remodelling).

So I've just been sitting and building equity and cash reserves. Who knows when/if it will return to earth, but I don't feel comfortable leveraging up that much, so as a single buyer, I'm sitting this one out.


Many schools still won't let kids play Bullrush or play in the dirt. This is a low decile school so it seems particularly awesome for the kids to get some exercise as many parents can't afford after school programs.

http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/26271/bullrush-2009


Not in this case:

http://www.3news.co.nz/New-Zealand-again-least-corrupt-natio...

But I will say that New Zealand has a perceived problem currently as a somewhat 'nanny state'. Definitely a million kinds of by-laws but we try to resolve our differences with fairness in mind. Generally I describe New Zealand as a 'fair' country, as in, let's figure out what's fair for all involved.


If you'd watched the video, here's a paraphrase:

"We watch the kids play, then we talk and they decide on the rules. They respect the rules better then".

Adult supervision at schools is pretty common, even in the deep South Pacific.


I don't know why you are being downvoted. Humans are physical creatures as much as thinkers, and not letting kids find physical limits is going to have severe effects on their ability to think and take creative risks with their minds.


I grew up in New Zealand in the 80s. Bullrush, 3-story high flying foxes on school property, huge trees, open farmland, unsupervised cross-country runs: no adults around were par for the course except if someone broke a bone (which I remember happening in my community twice in 10 years) and we managed ourselves. We like to think we're a good outdoor lot of people and many of us adults have been horrified to think our kids can't grow up like we did.

What I saw in this video was like looking back 30 years and it made me happy. You're underestimating our kids to think we can't let them loose for a good game of bullrush and they are more aware that they are being watched than actually just playing the rules of the game. Also remember that Rugby is New Zealand's national sport and these kids grow up watching it and knowing the rules. I'd bet some of those kids end up in the All Blacks.


I did too. So I just wanted to mention that it was exactly the same for me. Just like you said: bullrush, rugby, flying foxes, the chance to run around and be kid. I went to a catholic school run by nuns at that age, so they would walk around and make sure that nothing got out of hand. And it never did.

Thing one thing I would say is that it was a different time and I think we have became more fearful of the potential dangers out there. We are presented with extreme events and begin to think that this is the way of the world. Parents (rightfully) become fearful for their children. But, for a lot of us, we are lucky and live in a very safe environments, and in such environments children should be aloud to explore, imagine, and enjoy their childhoods.


Edit: a flying-fox is what we call in NZ and Australia a 'zip line' I believe. Still find them in New Zealand across the country in public parks but not any, I believe, schools these days. How else do you get kids to run up 3 flights of stairs 20 times during lunch?


a quick look on google maps revealed that the flying fox at my intermediate is still there, admittedly it's not as high as most in public parks that i remember


I grew up in the 90s (in NZ...), we also had all of that. However I can say from years 5-9 there was bullying, but not much, but it grew way out of control when things were taken away... The last couple of years at primary school, we were not allowed to play bullrush, not allowed to play tackle rugby, flying fox was gone, not allowed to climb trees, too many restrictions on taking equipment out (for things like soccer/cricket)

Bullying grew more and more, i suspect because we were doing less at playtime and spending more time hassling each other.

I got into far too many fights towards the end of primary school than my first couple of years.


Another New Zealander here, there's merit to encouraging safety consciousness in children. An injury like a broken back (That most people think will "never happen to them") can doom someone for life. Teaching rigorous safety consciousness in children should result in some of that safety consciousness sticking around into adulthood.

That being said, I also think rugby is a silly game.


>Teaching rigorous safety consciousness in children

Yes, watching the video reminded me that no-one taught me how to tackle when I was playing Rugby as a skinny 11 year old. Good to see the kids at the school have someone to help them avoid those common injuries and still get some decent play in.


Upvote for calling rugby a silly game. I went to a rugby playing school and it drove me nuts to be interrupted every three seconds by the whistle. It was psychological torture. I wandered off the pitch one day and joined the losers, punks and scrawny deadbeats playing soccer on a rough sloping field with the goalposts marked out by jumpers. Bugger rugby.


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