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It's strange the article quotes so much from it, but doesn't link the BASIC source itself

It's squirreled away on Disquette 003 on the Poptronics Dialector site: https://dialector.poptronics.fr/dialector_documents/ADisquet...

Haha, thanks. I am amusing myself trying to get claude to figure out what I need to reproduce it, and how to use the emulator at https://dialector.poptronics.fr/ partly to reveal some of the elements outside the program, e.g. KAT OWL FACE images

Also trying to run this on actual Apple IIe. Have the BASIC but stuck on the same problem. Binary files OWL, KAT, FACE, all of that. Using Claude too to help. Have emailed the Poptronics team too but wondering if anyone here has come across them.

Author here. Funny who you can run into on HN. Anyway, worthy project.

These images: https://dialector.poptronics.fr/dialector_documents/ADisquet...

Plus this converter: https://github.com/KrisKennaway/ii-pix

...should get you closer. You'll still be missing a few files though, the full listing of the original disk contents (all the images, etc) is here: https://dialector.poptronics.fr/dialector_documents/ADisquet...

And yeah, as durakot pointed out it's Beagle Basic.


Amazing - thank you for stopping by too. Super helpful. Will come back with anything else that I find too. Fun project.


It does:

> At the risk of getting a bit esoteric, I want to spend a moment with the actual source code to Dialector [...]


He makes many quotations, but doesn't give the (reconstructed) source. The quotations made me want to see the rest. As kosmavision points out it's visible at https://dialector.poptronics.fr/dialector_documents/ADisquet... The emulator at https://dialector.poptronics.fr/ prints a sort of trace on the right hand side, which was helpful as I was asking claude what was going on.

I probably don't understand it but, the reports are all that it is Anthropic, not OpenAI, that is the one supplying the AI fuel for the present Iran war. (Thus the delay in the imagined military rejection of Anthropic). Meanwhile OpenAI says it has exactly the same principles and 'red lines' but is somehow implementing them differently. They seem to agree that they do not differ in any of the respects in question. The real story has to be completely different.


You would think the hebrew population is just exhausted and hardened and driven a little crazy by several generations of 'deathtoisrael' 'deathtoisrael' drilled into the brains of millions of schoolchildren every year - each /year/'s school intake of impressionable brains is larger than the total world Jewish population. In the end the hebrew-speakers' response will not be simply rational as they are as much mentally affected as the iran citizenry, which is orders of magnitude larger.

It's typical the world community has put up with the naked genocidal intent of the Iran government - which is by now in a sense woven into its constitution and mystical-apocalyptic self-conception - as if it were a musical curious style -- as they build militias saying the same on every border, financing the bizarre suicide campaigns of early 2000s etc. to stop a 2 state solution and keep the party going.

With 'deathtoamerica deathtoamerica' noblesse oblige requires us to pretend it is merely comical. But the 'uppity, arrogant' jewish state is microscopic by comparison with titanic Persian Empire. The disproportion (80x) is far more extreme than even USSR or USA v Afghanistan or USA v Vietnam (30x.


You're talking about Iran's genocidal intent as if Israel has not just finished actually committing one. And their supposed exhaustion from hate from their neighbors - The truth is they are gleefully hyper aggressive and hyper violent and ultra racist as well.


It's the Persian Empire, a titanic object, with an advanced civilization, quality scientific culture and a highly educated population (.... in the Persian-Azeri core, not the brutalized ethnic periphery). There are sanctions, but relations with Russia and China make up for the few inputs that the sheer extent of the Persian empire cannot yield. (Israel is a bit over 1% its size and mostly intractable desert but has more convenient external supply.)

The ingenuity is kind of astonishing, there is something of a mad febrile energy to it. Thus Houthi and Hamas mostly did not need external supply chains for rocketry etc.: a complete industrial chain could be devised in Iran and deployed on site. Part of it seems to be that a chief objective of design is minimizing what seems to us as inevitable external supply chain dependencies.

The product is indeed largely replication of external industry: as I understand, they seem to have done a lot of reverse engineering of enemy drones. But none of these can bee too much like the shahed, I think, as is evidenced by the fact that Uncle Sam has reverse engineered versions in production and appearing in the Gulf now.

Similarly, I suppose, the Chinese AIs that to some extent mirror US AIs, but on the cheap and with way less computing power, will be replicated in US.


Your argument needs ‘public debt /held by foreigners/ as percent of gdp’, I think? Or rather ‘public debt /held by foreigners to whom US provides defense/ as percent of gdp’ Then you are down to Japan.


Europe was investing €300B/year in the US. That capital is likely better invested domestically in Europe, and the direction Europe is headed.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46722594

https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1qjtvtl/macron_says...


The community burned me in the end - fortunately a little committee took over my libraries when I left in a rage at some of its truly insufferable vindictive self appointed leaders. I think this comes and goes and the main body of users is tirelessly helpful.

But the rest of this is nonsense. The compiler is a flat out miracle, a monument to human understanding, and produces unbelievably fast programs given the weird and wonderful abstract material one hands to it.


I have no experience with content moderation but thought that the bureaucracy Twitter had in place was really a response to genuine market imperatives. I mean, remember the site was a leading recruitment site for foreign Isis fighters, to give an extreme example. The Elonites and the resurfaced 4chan types have this picture of faceless ‘woke’ elites who came from nowhere but the general elite miasma —- and sensibly cast aside by free speech Musk. But in fact it was a gruesome business and technical problem; in the end it will only end up being reproduced.


And this is why charter schools are such a sterling success? This is why West European schools are uniformly catastrophic wastelands compared to ours? -- This experiment has already been run repeatedly, there is nothing in it at all.


Here's another definition -- by continuation -- from Hug's Prelude (http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/AUTRIJUS/Language-Haskell-0.0...) :

    newtype IO a = IO ((a -> IOResult) -> IOResult)

    data IOResult 
      = Hugs_ExitWith    Int
      | Hugs_Catch       IOResult (Exception -> IOResult) (Obj -> IOResult)
      | Hugs_ForkThread  IOResult IOResult
      | Hugs_DeadThread
      | Hugs_YieldThread IOResult
      | Hugs_Return      Obj
      | Hugs_BlockThread (Obj -> IOResult) ((Obj -> IOResult) -> IOResult)


It's unimportant, but the recently reintroduced 'monad comprehensions' bring out some nice features of this approach:

      fluStatusGivenPositiveTest = [fluStatus | fluStatus <- percentWithFlu 10
                                              , testResult <- testRate fluStatus
                                              , testResult == Pos]
        where testRate Flu     = percentPositive 70
              testRate Healthy = percentPositive 10


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