This title is moderately clickbait-y and comes with a subtle implication that Rust might be getting removed from the kernel. IMO it should be changed to "Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental"
I absolutely understand the sentiment, but LWN is a second-to-none publication that on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke, and also largely plays to an audience who will immediately understand that it's tongue-in-cheek.
Speaking as a subscriber of about two decades who perhaps wouldn't have a career without the enormous amount of high-quality education provided by LWN content, or at least a far lesser one: Let's forgive.
> Ouch. That is what I get for pushing something out during a meeting, I guess. That was not my point; the experiment is done, and it was a success. I meant no more than that.
Nah I used to read Phoronix and the articles are a bit clickbaity sometimes but mostly it's fine. The real issue is the reader comments. They're absolute trash.
The comments section is the biggest problem, but also, in addition to clickbait, the site has a tendency to amplify and highlight anything that will produce drama, often creating a predictable tempest in a teapot.
I think on HN, people waste too much time arguing about the phrasing of the headline, whether it is clickbait, etc. and not enough discussing the actual substance of the article.
This one is apparently a genuine mistake from the author. But I think we should leave it as it is. The confusion and the argument about it is interesting in itself.
It’s a bit clickbait-y, but the article is short, to the point, and frankly satisfying. If there is such a thing as good clickbait, then this might be it. Impressive work!
The topic of the Rust experiment was just discussed at the annual Maintainers Summit. The consensus among the assembled developers is that Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental — it is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay. So the "experimental" tag will be coming off. Congratulations are in order for all of the Rust-for-Linux team.
Perhaps, except it can have the reverse effect. I was surprised, disappointed, and then almost moved on without clicking the link or the discussion. I'm glad I clicked. But good titles don't mislead! (To be fair, this one didn't mislead, but it was confusing at best.)
big ++ for iroh - using it for a project at work, it's evolving really nicely, has reliable holepunching, and the team is super responsive and happy to dig thru gigs of logs to find a bug :)
It's unlikely you can. They're generally only willing to set up corporate deals to sell data in massive bulk. You could buy a domain name, set up a decently real looking website with a corpo looking email, then go to any broker like https://www.acxiom.com/customer-data/ (not affiliated, first one i found on google) and do the whole corporate dance of signing a contract to get what you want.
you could absolutely use DisTrO for federated learning. The DeMo optimizer on its own doesn't solve the adverserial aspects of training on local-only data, nor does it solve tensor parallelism across devices, so you're still limited to only what fits on your local GPUs, but it does enable distributed data parallelism over the internet at a bandwidth orders of magnitude lower than before.
> Are you planning to eventually do a SETI@home style thing where anyone can join?
That's one of the goals of the stuff we're working on right now, I personally hope we can make it work!
> What was Durk Kingma's involvement in DisTrO?
As a co-author on the paper, we brought him in to bounce some ideas off of & have him validate DeMo's design and implementation to ensure we weren't hallucinating these results.
