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Going from that link to the atkearney report, I tend to interpret that the 19.1 kW/h per GB of data as data centre cost. If that’s the case, it would not be correct to use it to calculate per phone consumption.

The 1GB of data cost is sunk cost, whether it’s accessed by one or a million. On the other hand, if we only had one smartphone in this world, we wouldn’t be storing zettabytes for it to access :)

More suitable numbers were 3.5 kW/h for the phone, and 23.4 kW/h for each connection. So, phone consumption should more accurately be 23.4 + 3.5 + (19.1 * total world storage / total world smartphone) !


You mean kWh, not kW/h. Watt per hour would measure a change in power consumption over time.


Still an absurdly high number. fixed line internet has 0.06 kWh/GB according to this 2018 study:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/jiec.12630

The majority of data heavy stuff also tends to happen in WiFi environments. So I dont know where this 300x overhead increase is supposed to come from. A typical 3G base station is burning 500W/h no matter what data usage is. So unless you share you wireless cell with less than 5 people this should be magnitudes below a fridge. The wired part of the infrastructure is much more efficient and aggregated in general.

I suppose the biggest culprut are not even the smarthones, but their cloud storage services, which are completely optional and not used to a large extent by the majority of smartphone users.

Most of all ISP profits and subscription costs would also be decisively lower/higher if energy use and therefore cost was supposedly that significant.


> 500W/h

Again, "W/h" is almost always wrong. You mean just "W", which already contains the "per time" part because W = J/s.


Facebook started simple, and then started prioritising engagement(thus conflict/noise).

I wonder what would be the analog for coin. Start as a medium of exchange, then start usurping national currencies. Nations would not be able to legislate them away, as business and citizens would be conducting cross and intra border commerce using libra.


More provoking, perhaps Huawei is aware of this and using it as intimidation, "we can copy you exactly faster than you can innovate, so better work with us..".


For that situation, i think they can market it as $6k monitor. For vesa, get the addon mount for $200. Basically, don't separately price the stand.

The way that its currently broken out is quite puzzling. As a fun conjecture, perhaps they are planning a range lower spec monitors and want to upsell the stand.


"Publish" is pretty hard to google, can someone elaborate?

In this context, I am wondering about its usage w.r.t. the email to buzzfeed, is that considered "publishing".

If not, I would have thought then that the libel would be on buzzfeed side, for publishing unsubstantiated rumors. At the very least, the act of "publishing" was performed by buzzfeed, even if they had caveat with "Musk emailed this to us..." .

With respect to Musk tweets, no doubts there, he clearly "published".


> In this context, I am wondering about its usage w.r.t. the email to buzzfeed, is that considered "publishing".

Publishing for purpose of defamation is communicating the message to another person by any means.

> If not, I would have thought then that the libel would be on buzzfeed side, for publishing unsubstantiated rumors

BuzzFeed published true facts, to wit, that Elon Musk had mailed them certain claims. Falsity being a required element of defamation (whether libel or slander), their publication can not be defamatory.

> if they had caveat with "Musk emailed this to us..." .

That's not a caveat, it indicates a completely different fact claim; the claim “Joe said X did Y” is a distinct fact claim from the claim “X did Y”.


> Publishing for purpose of defamation is communicating the message to another person by any means.

So, even if buzzfeed had not published to their website, Musk had already published to buzzfeed. Interesting !


I don’t get this thinking, if you’re in the bandaid making business, maybe make sure it doesn’t cause an infection ?

In this case the software was developed to compensate for the system characteristic,it did not fully do that. Of course, it is immensely frustrating that software is always called upon to the papering up, but that is another issue.


Sure, I'm not necessarily endorsing the thread.

I'm just saying the existence of an in progress software patch in no way contradicts the thread itself.

It's part of the premise of the thread itself.


I was looking at it from the narrow view that it was to do A (the papering over), and it did not do that (fully).

On second thought, it’s more a systems engineering issue not to take that case into account. Software engineering doesn’t get off scot free though, as they are an important voice.

With the presumably tight engineering controls that are practised, I can speculate that it may have fallen into “the pilot disables and takes over control” branch. The gap would then be that they did not think that the airlines would be given the option to “not” install the sensor failure warning.


Measles has a "90% secondary infection rate in susceptible domestic contacts". So, its likely that his brothers were infected as well. That leaves five others.

With the mentioned "97% vaccination success rate under ideal conditions", the fact that they were mixing around in school (and those they infected as well), it does not seem a stretch.


But I wouldn’t class i3 as slightly different. Probably an argument can be made that the prevalence of similar DEs ensured the APIs and interfaces that allowed for an i3.


A deep dive into the issue has secreted the secret.


> is that most people dont want to do that stuff. Forcing everyone to be an “intellectual” for their survival would be downright dystopian

That wouldn’t be too different from the system today :( It would be a different set of people, sure. But it would actually be a net positive if this subset is smaller than the current subset (of people who don’t want to do x). I’d expect the number of people who are able to find their niche in arts, science, philosophy,etc would be quite large.


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