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Honestly, I'd rather my 0.1% in rent would go to these lawyers than to the scent machine companies.

I'm very surprised it even took that long for this to happen. These laws have been on the books for decades, and the scent-free policies have been popping up like flowers ever since the 2009 CDC policy that went as far as prohibit using scented detergent for clothing worn to work (a little extreme, sure, but, at the very least, doing an extra rinse cycle does help a lot).

Many of these policies are more about awareness and civil rights than actual enforcement. If these policies are normalised and seen by everyone, it removes the friction from people for whose benefit these policies were created. So then if you actually need it enforced, it wouldn't be a surprise to anyone of your need for the policy to be enforced.


They may be stretching a bit, but the statistics is still on their side, and their filings are very explicit that they actually demand compliance (sure, they probably had to add that for some legitimacy, but they did add that nonetheless).


This filing is worth a read for the entire situation:

* https://colevannote.com/wp-content/uploads/CMP_Greystar.pdf

For those unaware, Greystar is a major property management company in the US for residential apartments:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greystar

It's a great summary of the issues. Some of the less talked about points is an outsized disparate impact of these scent machines on reportedly 85.4% of autistic individuals, as pointed in the opening statement of this lawsuit, which I'm sure many HN readers could certainly relate to.


Found the non-paywall original:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48734824


I recently learned that the CDC has adopted an "Indoor Environmental Quality Policy" in 2009 that has the following text:

> In addition, CDC encourages employees to be as fragrance-free as possible when they arrive in the workplace. Fragrance is not appropriate for a professional work environment, and the use of some products with fragrance may be detrimental to the health of workers with chemical sensitivities, allergies, asthma, and chronic headaches/migraines. Employees should avoid scented detergents and fabric softeners on clothes worn to the office. Many fragrance-free personal care and laundry products are easily available and provide safer alternatives.

The most interesting bits:

> Fragrance is not appropriate for a professional work environment

> Employees should avoid scented detergents and fabric softeners on clothes worn to the office.


Resume Driven Development is why fundamentally people like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are crucial to ensuring the enshitification is kept in check.

Elon Musk may be a bad example in this situation, because he's actually a fan of removing the extra controls and the physical buttons, but at least their UX is far-far better than any of the legacy manufacturers.


IIRC, MasterCard SecureCode and Visa's verified-by-visa were more of a thing in the US maybe like decade or two ago? I think NewEgg and B&H did support it at one point? Afterwards, everyone has simply disabled the thing, and you simply get a wave-through by most issuers when shopping on foreign sites, where you get redirected to issuer's website, then back to the online shop, without having to type or confirm anything.

Back when it was a thing, it was quite a nightmare, where you had to register for a 3ds account, often separate from your normal online account, and keep a separate password etc. Then those iframe windows look exactly like the phishing websites, too.

Honestly, it's much ado about nothing. If the transaction is suspicious or likely fraudulent, today, you already get an SMS or an alert within bank's app on your phone. All you have to do is confirm and retry the transaction a minute later. This works for both in-person transactions, as well as remote ones, with the same flow, unlike 3ds, which only works for online shopping.


I think during the OVH fire, it was the smoke damage that was deemed to have damaged a lot of the servers.

Fans and cooling might be affected by all the debris. Spinning rust drives often have breathing holes, too.


Absolutely. So many failure modes. Literally even just 'things falling over'.


This doesn't even touch the entire resume-driven development issue.

The vast majority of all websites today, are designed in such a way as to tout the resumes of all the people responsible for the site with all the latest buzzwords. Content hidden under drop-down menus noone cares about and which makes things very hard to find, pointless animation here and there, pointless custom zoom logic that doesn't work properly on the big screens, all the latest frameworks to display a few tables of text, progressive loading and pagination for the simplest of data (like the banking transactions of a consumer credit card) that in the old days could have simply been displayed on a single page etc.


An underrated comment. But sunlight is the best disinfectant.

I think it's the fundamental issue with these cameras, that it takes pictures of us, but we ourselves cannot access it. Even though it was us who has paid for it!


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