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> Of course they're ideological. That's the whole point

Yes, but their ideology _was_ free-speech absolutism. This move, and this statement, suggests that they're moving away from that ideology to one of selectively free speech.


Being a free speech absolutionist DOES NOT mean plastering your speech everywhere, including Twitter. Those are clearly two different concepts.

Also, literally nothing about this says anything about other people's speech. Them deciding not to use twitter doesn't mean you can't, obviously.

I feel like everyone is losing the plot a bit. Are we understanding the words we're saying before we choose to say them?


So because EFF does not post their news in my small Australian home town newspaper they're not free-speech absolutists?

They’re not trying to stop anyone else being on X or saying anything there or anywhere else.

what are you even talking about? they arent suppressing free speech, they are leaving a platform. this might be the most bot-like response ive ever seen, if youre not a bot then go outside, read a book, just log off my goodness.

Please explain. How does this suggest they no longer value free speech?

That’s not what the comment you replied to said.

They said the EFF’s ideology use to be free speech absolutism.

From the EFF post linked to that we are discussing here:

Young people, people of color, queer folks, activists, and organizers use Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook every day.

<snip>

neither is pushing every user to the fediverse when there are circumstances like:

<snip>

Your abortion fund uses TikTok to spread crucial information.

You're isolated and rely on online spaces to connect with your community.

That very much makes it sound like the EFF values free speech, but only if that speech is speech they agree with.

What about if your anti-abortion fund uses X to spread crucial information. What about if you’re isolated and rely on X to connect with your community?

What if you’re not a young person, a person of color, queer, an activists, nor an organizer?

The EFF used to be free speech absolutists, it’s evident they be taken over by progressive liberals who favour free speech they agree with.

Look in to the history of cases they have litigated. There’s definitely at least some where I disagreed with the content of the speech, but agreed with the right to say it and that the EFF were correct in supporting the case.


>> Young people, people of color, queer folks, activists, and organizers use Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook every day.

> What if you’re not a young person, a person of color, queer, an activists, nor an organizer?

People who aren't young, of color, queer, activists, or organizers, use Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook every day, too. There's no good reason for an organization to have a presence on every social media platform under the sun, but there is one for limiting the overhead you have to do (and also for minimizing social media usage in general).


> the business owner is aggressively pushing his political views

That's always been the case with Twitter - Dorsey was just as bad, but just with a different set of political views. (Views that, I presume, the EFF is aligned with).


My father passed away last year from complications due to Alzheimer's, but for years before he died, he struggled to work streaming services and modern "smart" TVs. We got him one of the few models of DVD players that we could actually still find and a lot of used DVDs because he _could_ use those.

OP here might be misremembering DVDs, here: the physical media skipped or froze intermittently and the players themselves were finicky; we ended up replacing it about three times in just as many years. Streaming services are overpriced, but they do _work_ consistently.


> OP here might be misremembering DVDs, here: the physical media skipped or froze intermittently and the players themselves were finicky

In my teens my friends and I watched probably hundreds of DVDs, and they almost never had a problem. Skips & freezes were almost only ever a factor for highly scratched copies, more typical of those from Blockbuster than anything we picked up in the $5 bargain bins.

I don't think I've ever encountered a "finicky" player, either. I don't even know what that'd mean.


I have programmed well over hundreds of DVDs, and I can assure you, there were finicky players. Apex players were infamous on how cheap they were, and finicky is an appropriate word. DVD had a spec, and there were parts of the spec that Apex players did not do well at all. The spec allowed for random play. Apex players cheaped out on an PRNG type of ability and came with a saved preset list of random values. If you programmed a disc with random playback, it would playback exactly the same way every. single. time. It really sucked when we were programming games using the random feature. The spec allowed for 99 titles. Any where over 50 titles, and there was a better than not chance that an Apex player wasn't going to even recognize the disc. There were other quirks too, but I'm hoping the point was made

About half of the DVDs and Blu-rays I get from the library skip at some point in my PS5. They're usually not visibly scratched, though usually the scratches that matter are on the top not the bottom.

I started just ripping everything when the studios started adding unskippable ads... I had a rental copy of Friday, still have never actually seen it, there was a bad scratch and it froze after 30+ minutes of unskippable previews.

I've never had a really bad player though... I have seen players that had issues with burned disks, but not mfg (unless scratched rentals).


The only problem I've ever had with Blu-Ray players is that as the player gets older the trays eventually start having trouble ejecting. Other than that, I've never had one have any play trouble, even with scuffs on the discs.

Meanwhile, my streaming box randomly loses network connectivity, despite having a wired connection, and I have to restart it, before I can stream anything.


Okay I have dvd players that work fine even still. DVDs need care - scratches and fingerprints are bad (though the error correction on a good player will make it less noticeable). I think the lifespan of a dvd player may be in its design (where dust may get to the laser?) or the environment (humidity or temp may play a role?)

It's possible that DVD players are extremely low quality now, since there are very few people still buying them.

They are, after the second Walmart cheapass dvd player died, I bit the bullet and got an Xbox Series ProMax X 360 Copilot whatever.

It's a glorified blurry player, and it works fine as such.


As they say, you get what you pay for.

vs stock grants.

Amazing what you can accomplish when you have more than "a sprint" to deliver something and no project manager asking "are you done yet?"

Recovering game dev here

The publisher for this game was Activision. They absolutely had deadlines, lots of (1987) money invested in this, outsourced to a third party company in Hungary, had the outsource team fail, moved development platforms a few times, wrote a programming language and a game engine, and then became the best selling C64 game.

Very much development hell.


I'm worried about my kids, but don't forget to worry about yourself, too! I've got just enough saved up for retirement by current retirement calculator standards (if I keep working and contributing until I'm 67), but inflation could easily end up negating all of it long before I can use any of it.

My son graduates college next month. Although he has an ok job lined up, he and most of his cohorts are incredibly pessimistic about the future and I'm not sure I can say that I blame them.

I don't know a single young person who has entertained any hope of owning a decent house at any point in the next 20 years.

It's the norm now, depressingly. Prior to 2020, It seemed like it might be eventually possible for some of us if we make smart decisions in terms of careers, saving money, and everything else.

Post 2020, and now especially with the economy being propped up by AI that appears to be on the verge of killing (or at least significantly wounding) one of the last viable career paths that would allow for homeownership, I've accepted that it probably just won't happen. Same with having children. Somehow having both feels like a pipe dream.

It's also why I'm not shocked that a significant number of startups lately are just young people doing whatever they can to grab some wealth before things get even worse. Overall, there's an expectation that things will simply keep getting worse with little chance of turning around. It'll be interesting (in a morbid way) to see how this affects the kids currently growing up today.


A good NNTP server is one of the few services I'd be willing to pay for on the modern internet, though. (Emphasis on good)

If you don't need binaries, eternal-september.org isn't too shabby.

comp.lang.java seems to go all the way back to 1995. Maybe depends on the group?

> it seems greatly improved

With 1990's style age "verification" to boot.


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