Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | dombiscoff's commentslogin

What I found interesting was that he adapted and shifted to a very unconventional strategy of play, opposed to the AI who primarily seems to play high probability moves. Does this not demonstrate the human edge against AI in novel / unconventional thinking?

> a very unconventional strategy

Correction: a very conservative strategy, so as not to lose the advantage he started with.


Semantically you wouldn't, because they require their specific run-times. The difference is that those run-times are built to work natively on Linux (and often are enmeshed within its distributions), whereas any software requiring WINE is built to natively work on Windows, but is able to be translated for Linux. That distinction, between a native built runtime and a translation layer, is pretty major, and I think is why you can argue the colloquial usage of the term 'runs on Linux' differs between the two.

99% of the replies here speak from the point of view that they are of the intelligent group. Hmmm, either hacker news is some sort of naturally forming mensa community or there's a lot of ego being put on display here.


When someone tells me they are smart in person the first thing I check is how healthy/fit they are and their social capabilities. Most nerds aren't smart.


Wouldn't this only check their social and health related abilities?


Which can both be optimized if the person is smart enough. The feedback loop even helps with learning.

We spend 24h/day in our own body and interacting with people.


Art is information, always.


It’s not tautological. Explain why, and particularly why it’s only information, which is the thing that purportedly wishes to be free.


I think he just enjoys terminal styling, man.


I think the line of reasoning that a method should provide as much accessibility as possible to not alienate real humans is a good one. You use 'have to' as if there aren't better solutions that could be invented, but such will only occur if we challenge the imperfect solutions we have now.


Quite frankly I don't understand why the cat and mouse argument here is meant to serve as a shutdown for anti-AI methods. Whole industries entirely exist in a cat and mouse state (cybersecurity, anti-cheat, etc) and no one in those industries imply that any solution is or can be a permanent dunk. If anything, the very fact that theres no permanent dunk is what leads to such industries developing a competitive service based industry to begin with. Why can't a theoretical anti-AI industry develop into the same thing? These fonts just seem like the infancy steps for such.


Cybersecurity and KAC are not tractable to legislation because the attackers are already breaking the rules.

AI labs are broadly within the law and would like to not become criminal organisations, because money laundering is expensive.


A lot of people are saying to stop using facebook as if its such a simple, catch-all answer. For a lot of people, and a lot of countries, facebook (whatsapp, too) is still the primary(only) way of communication. If not with your friends, then with your family. There's a big demand from those people to have a way of interacting with this pseudo-essential service without having to oblige to complete data rape.


I too am astounded by humanities desire to know things without a monetary benefit. Don't they understand the money spent on this could've gone to a vulture capital?


I see, and thats not my point

proving the strains of malaria was interesting

proving whether they died from arsenic or malaria isn’t, unless its of consequence half a millenia later


Says you, wouldn't historians find this interesting? The medici family is a prominent part of Italian history. But again, think of the vulture capital!


I don’t really appreciate the sarcasm because I asked for an ELI5 not a “in favor of something profitable”

There could be a consequential angle I’m not aware of


Sounds like a pointless endeavour to me. This infinite efficiency quest for speed reading is chief pursued by those who don't read regularly, and so don't understand that ones comprehension comes from the pauses, the page turns, and the backtracks which make up reading traditionally. If one has no time to digest, are they truly reading a book or just an impromptu script?


A lot of what you're saying here resonates with me, I've touched on some of these points myself in this conversation. It definitely isn't great for anything that requires actual thought. Your comprehension does suffer as your reading speed increases. The whole industry surrounding this stuff really does oversell its capabilities, which is why I tend to set a practical limit rather than touting some massive number.

Where I think the argument starts to break down is by lumping all reading into a single category. Reading a novel for pleasure, and wading through forty pages of background information before you get to the five crucial ones, are fundamentally different activities. I'm a medical student, and the majority of my reading consists of that second type. You can't really "digest" a literature review in a way that makes it enjoyable. The only real goal is to get through it once, without getting bogged down.

Regarding the pauses, that's actually the area I put the most work into. It lingers three times longer at the end of sentences and twice as long at commas, specifically because a consistent, flat pace feels like reading a script rather than actual prose. And, of course, you can pause whenever you feel the need; there's no pressure to keep moving forward.

The part I'd really push back on is who this is actually for. The people who've given me the most in-depth feedback today are clearly avid readers. It's not really a tool for people who don't read much.


I agree. If I really want to absorb material I have to slow down and consume it. Its not that my eyes don't recognise the words and have it leave and imprint on my mind, it's that my actual comprehension and retention of the knowledge is not at 100%. And if it's not at 100% I feel like I'm missing out on something which could be crucial information within the context of whatever I'm reading. So I'll go back and reread passages if I have to. I guess if I didn't really care how much of the whatever I'm reading I absorbed and was happy to absorb only a fraction of 100% then speed reading would be perfectly fine. Picking up something is better than nothing I guess. But if I'm reading a fictional story, it doesn't make sense to speed read it to me if the goal is to just enjoy it. Go on the sensory, emotional and intellectual journey that fiction can take us on.


I agree, the quest for productivity is ultimately counter-productive. But I think there are some legitimate use cases for RSVP: screens too small to fit a paragraph (smartwatch), quick triage of headlines or alerts, and accessibility, for example people with impaired eye-movement control.


You're right, I agree.


Or someone like me who reads often, and at great volume, and wants to read more. Not everyone is like you.


Why do you want to read more, if you don't mind me asking?


I like reading.


What do you read?


Anything that interests me. I can see you're not asking in good faith based on your other comments (and indeed, even calling something pointless just because you personally don't see a benefit, which is a useless way to understand things) so I will reply in kind. As I said, not everyone is like you, so maybe you're the one who simply reads too slow for it to matter.


All the better for it. Although I apologise if my wording came off as 'bad faith.'


That's the profile I keep bumping into, people who already read a lot and want the volume rather than a shortcut. What does your load actually look like, out of interest? I'm trying to work out where the line sits between the reading you'd want this for and the reading you'd want to slow down for. Everyone seems to draw it somewhere slightly different and I don't think I've got it right yet.


It depends on the book, if I'm reading Lord of the Rings or something dense obviously I'd slow down. But for pulp fiction or nonfiction even, I'd go fast. I typically read between one and two books a week, generally pretty decent sized ones too.


That's a good way to phrase it, and it makes me question my own approach. I've been sorting things into fiction and non-fiction, but what you're saying suggests it's more about why you're reading. Are you there for the words themselves, or just to get to the point? With someone like Tolkien, you're absorbing the language. But with a thriller or a business book, you're mostly focused on the information or plot beyond the sentences.

Reading a couple of books weekly, and switching between these reading styles, also makes me think the reading speed should be set per book, not as a general setting. If you're reading Tolkien at 250 words per minute and a fast-paced paperback at 450, you shouldn't have to adjust the speed every time you pick up a different title. Since it already tracks where you are in each book, remembering the reading speed for each one seems like a logical next step.

Anyway, that's a really helpful point.


Your comments are being auto banned by the way, probably due to being a new account and probably due to writing too much like an AI with HN's detectors.


I ask you to question why those 'avid readers' are looking for a shortcut to increase their volume rather than a shortcut to increase their comprehension. Looking at this users are comments, his desire is simply to increase the tally rather than any genuine interest in reading.


False dichotomy that reading more does not mean understanding more, that's why you ironically don't understand. Why would I read more just to keep up some artificial count if it doesn't heed my knowledge?


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: