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Sure they could develop it in a weekend, so could anyone else. but once a product has the initial userbase, that's not something a competitor can just copy. user acquision is the limiting factor to success, not writing code.


I specifically mentioned that in my comment.


that's not the job of a company. companies are suposed to be profit centered, their purpose is to make money.

what you're talking about is the role of government. govt should be supporting policies like you are suggesting, by for example allowing for universal basic income or uniersal basic land or services, etc.


Why? This is asserted throughout this HN thread as an obvious truism, but it seems precipiced on some dramatic right wing free market concept of how the world works that I can't tell is coming from the libertarians of hacker news, or is some kind of USA concept.

Why should society let the concept of a company exist if it is actively detrimental to society at large, for the gain of a very few?


The biggest limiting factor is user acquisition. Just because you can build a competitor in a weekend doesn't mean you can easily acquire a user base. it's dam hard to get users even if your product is twice as good and your giving it away for free!


The implied risk isn't more SaaS competitors, it's that B2B SaaS consumers will just code up their own product instead of going with a SaaS vendor.


Started seeing even B2C folks just get the LLM to do it, or code up a quick solution that does most of it.


there are still tribes in the amazon that have very little money, like the hazda. they may not call it retirement but they don't need to go to the office everyday.

Serious question, what makes us so addicted and dependent to money that we can't imagine any way of life without a lot of it?


People play dumb status games.

Here is the crazy thing, I went carnivore after I retired because one thread that worried me about shitty insurance is the risk. Now, I'm pretty sure if I only eat meat and work-out, then I might not even need insurance. Like, my labs are phenomenal.

By taking away the fear and the addiction, I've got a level of calm and control of my life that makes me realize the "modern world" is deeply sick.


So you think healthy living will prevent you from needing medical care until you are 65?


For the chronic stuff, yes.

For acute accidents, who knows!

With carnivore: I'm off almost all meds, my mobility and flexibility are amazing these days (I am sitting on the floor right now with crossed legs).


That’s not how life works…


Dude, cancer is an RNG roll away for anyone.

Doesn't matter how well you take care of yourself if a random cell decides to divide in just the wrong way.


Cancer happens all the time and your immune system deals with it. Look into the recent evidence of how keto deals with cancer. I'm telling you, I live in a world without fear and it is awesome.


I'm well aware of keto and cancer. I spent 5 years in ketosis, I trained semi professionally as an athlete (4 hours a day at a professional MMA gym), I spent years helping people get into keto and lose tons of weight and improve their health.

Keto helps with some cancers that are powered by glucose.

It does nothing to help with any other forms of cancer, of which there are plenty.


Are you willing going to “happy thoughts” your way into never having a serious illness?


Yes, 100%, all the way, full send.

edit: to add clarity, I'm going to leverage full placebo and happiness to my advantage: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12883117/

I'm refute any negative emotions as they are counter-productive. I reject fear of the unknown, and I instead believe happy thoughts.


The Hazda live in Tanzania, not the Amazon. And they grow up learning to live the way they do. They'd be as lost in our world as we'd be in theirs.


And what’s their life expectancy?


Hate to be that guy, but the Hazda live in Tanzania.


i think you can get a pretty decent prius from 5k to 10k and a fantastic nearly brand new tesla model 3 for 17K. That's what i did. it was 8 years old, practically brand new, FSD prepaid included! it drives me to work and i only paid 17K for it!


you don't need to eat ramen. there are many cost effective options out there: oatmeal, beans, rice, you could grow your own fruits and vegetables, etc.

and as for the medical disaster: heart attack and stroke are actually preventable with a plant based diet (keep your LDL under 80 and you'll vastly decrease your chance of a heart attack). i know a lot of people will hate on that, but those are the facts and any evidence based nutritionist can tell you this.


How do you prevent random accidents, cancer, etc?


my wife and I regularly eat lotus root, it's quite delicious and common in chinese cooking. the others not so much.

On a side note there are 1000s even 10s of thousand of edible plant based species that grow on the earth. i don't know how old they are though.


i would argue that reach has already been the biggest limiting factor for the last 10 even 20 years.


isn't it just one more step up the hierarchy. 10 years ago most developers have forgotten how to code in machine language because you didn't need to know it. Now, we're jsut going one step higher.


this is misleading because they're not comparing apples to apples.

the insurance companies are looking into all the details I'm sure to be able price the risk accordingly. Lemonade is putting their money where their mouth is and it's pricing FSD miles at 1/2 the rate of manned driving. that's because FSD gets 1/2 the number accidents per mile.


I think the discrepancy here is that almost all these crashes would not have resulted in an insurance claim, e.g. backing into a pole at 1 mph -- this is not enough damage to report for an average driver.

That said, really bad numbers for an autonomous system which is supposed to be way better than humans.


It depends on what part of the car is crumpled, dented, scratched, or misaligned and what your deductible is. It doesn’t take much body work to hit $250, $500, or even $2000.


> that's because FSD gets 1/2 the number accidents per mile.

I call bullshit and I bet Tesla is quietly paying Lemonade.

FSD is primarily used on highways, and the accident rate on highways is significantly lower per mile which results in FSD appearing to have a lower accident rate per mile.

Meanwhile Musk has a trillion dollars riding on them hitting 10 million FSD subscribers[1], so (past behavior being the best predictor of future behavior) he's obviously going to be committing whatever chicanery is required for him to get that money.

[1] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-elon-musk-1-trillion-1647...


FSD automatically shuts off and relinquishes control to the user in an emergency. I bet the real number of FSD accidents is far far higher, but they're using this loophole to claim it's lower than it is. If you call them out on it, they just hide behind their "the driver must be in control at all times" legal shield.


Is Tesla insuring their robotaxis thru lemonade?


> insurance companies

If it's so good then why doesnt Tesla eat the liability?


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