That is probably not what he meant.

1. The weaknesses of the human condition might be the cause of our destruction. That's why I am not surprised when people give these anti doomer takes. History keeps repeating again and again and people haven't really learned from their mistakes.

2. The solution to this problem would be to fix or greatly diminish human greed and selfishness or anything else that I might be missing. We would then have greater chances of heading towards a utopia.

We will end up with either a utopia or a dystopia.

I don't disagree. I don't really have too much of an opinion on which one we end up with. I was more pointing out that, at the limit, it's not certain that we will end up in a dystopia through abundance, more that it is extremely uncertain of which one it will be and to extrapolate as the GP did is to not full take abundance to it's limit.

I would assume we are moving towards a dystopia. GP is correct on the dangers but his perspective is incomplete and takes you on a wrong direction as you may have said.

It would require a lot of people to understand the dangers and take action to solve the necessary problems before it's too late.

Governance and the other systems we have must fundamentally change. (All over the world)

We must acknowledge our flaws and frailty which causes us to be selfish,greedy and seek dominance and control over the rest. This is animalistic behaviour.

People must recognize that we are running out of time.

We are seeing a race whose direction is difficult to predict but the magnitude will be out of bounds.

If you are useless, you won't matter. Have you thought about how pests are treated?

This is relevant today and as time goes by, it's not difficult to predict.

I think we are heading towards a dystopian world.

I hope peace and goodwill prevails.

I understand what you have said but I have an argument why it can happen before 2029. How can I contact you securely? I asked this since you know the dangers, you might be extremely worried.

I'm aware of the severity but I don't have a secure way of being contacted at the moment. I don't know when I'll have it up and running.

Most of my devices have been repeatedly compromised on a fairly consistent and continuing basis (bricked at the firmware level; routers, modems, phones). HFC-head end services appears compromised on the ISP side, reports have been made; tickets opened; and closed 30 days later with no correction, and no record on future calls so its all BS.

I have been bogged down in the process of recovering from backups. Its slagged enough hardware that I now keep SPI firmware and parallel memory chip backup images for my important systems prior to connecting them to a network, and its a real chore accessing the hardware to revert to known working good images for quite a lot of these component interfaces; often they are buried destructively under pads/thermal heat sinks.

I don't have an ETA, its minute detailed work, and working directly with hardware really isn't my forte.

> you might be extremely worried.

That's been fairly consistent since this came to my attention a few years ago, not for myself but for family and friends that might survive this.

In fairness, I think its likely I'll be dead from vaccine injury by the time this rolls around. Nerve-function and muscle loss are progressive and worsening, and its stumped every expert, and worsening symptoms after reintroduction of booster, and infection later (from the grocery store, C19) so odds aren't good.

I've done what I can, and dwelling on the things you can't control doesn't do anything but create misery.

I'm aware there are a number of things that can accelerate the timetable where it would happen sooner, some outlier things as early as late 2025, but those aren't likely to happen.

2029 is the point at which the economic system fails to socialism/communism with no action needed from anyone; just business as usual. From there, its a steady death march to full collapse and most don't have a clue.