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how odd to see a write up from skroutz.gr blog being at the first page of HN...


Also these!

Speeding Up Our Build Pipelines - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20775297 - Aug 2019 (24 comments)

The infrastructure behind one of the most popular sites in Greece - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9982361 - July 2015 (5 comments)

Working with the ELK stack - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9008119 - Feb 2015 (35 comments)


They're one of the largest employers of web programmers in Greece, though, right?


Yeap, it's a bit strange, but the post was very well written, with a nice breakdown and easily understandable steps that can be followed by most software engineers.

There have been some sporadic posts from Skroutz in the past, but nothing that gained so much attention.

For those that don't know it, Skroutz is the biggest Greek online price aggregator/e-commerce market/price comparison site.


from ec.europa.eu: "Accession negotiations started in 2005, but until Turkey agrees to apply the Additional Protocol of the Ankara Association Agreement to Cyprus, eight negotiation chapters will not be opened and no chapter will be provisionally closed."


Yes, but even Cyprus wasn't an iron wall back then. Turkey signalled many times that they will do Cyprus, they had numerous talks over it, and French signalled they will not let them in anyways.


For a European the above statement sounds so strange, alsmost fictional like. I thought that we have already established that a truly free market does not exist.


I've had similar emotional reactions to hearing about Europeans censoring/surveilling their citizens (openly, unlike in the US where it still happens but it's "secret" and illegal.)


Here here!


It's "hear, hear".


From someone from the UK, it's more like "Errrrerrrrr"

https://youtu.be/CLSq1h7AvkE?t=70


Hare here!


There, there!


Some feedback that will help better understanding of costs.

1. A medium size container vessel (10k TEUS) with abt 15kts speeds will cost the same as the canal transit cost now that the fuel is relatively cheap, compared to the Africa voyage. But you save time.

2. Major liners (APM, MSC, etc), enjoy significant discounts over face value for the canal transits as they commit volumes. The discounts could be north of 30%+, but not publicly available. WILHELMSEN has a nice calculator

3. There is no scenario that something cannot be monetized, either it will be fuel or time or both. As such any financial loss due to the canal clocking can be calculated. The vessel’s P&I will be very busy.


Filipino Masters and Chief Engineers are being paid north of $8500/month. Evidently you are not well informed.


I'm not sure OP was talking about masters and chiefs (chiefes? Why does that look weird spelled both ways?).

I'm certain s/he was talking about juniors on the ships.


I don't doubt a select few senior people are well paid - but there are many, many more junior crew members that do not fit that description.

Also - rude.


if this ship is purely wind powered and basis on the published info this seems to be the case, i.e. there is no main engine of any type/fuel for propulsion - commercially it’s not viable. Shipping is highly optimized for arrival to a destination/port on a very narrow time window. Even delays of a couple of hours will be extremely expensive. For example, late arrival to SUEZ means that the vessel will join the end of the convoy at a premium rate costing hundreds of thousands of USD in additional fees. Not only that, Ports and Charterers (Liners) are working basis specific arrival times, you cannot simply arrival late because the wind was not favorable. It could work as an assisting system, such as Flettner rotors , skysails ,etc


It has an ‘auxiliary engine’ for port manoeuvring and ‘emergency power’. This ship is being designed for the Atlantic route and I imagine will be sailing with the trade winds to get more consistent winds (Clockwise around the Atlantic). The reason this is being built for roro cars rather than traditional cargo is probably due to the logistics.


It seems pretty likely that this also has a significant amount of generator capacity on board. Even small sailboats often have to run their engine or generator during passages to top up their battery.


I understand what you say. But maybe it's time to forget about that kind of time optimization and replace it by an optimization for fuel efficiency... Else we'll be stuck in the past...

(but I'm an idealist, for sure :-))


If fuel savings are great enough, this could be irrelevant, and planned around.

And there could be a premium for the service. I could see Tesla paying extra to ship electric cars with burning bunker fuel. As a customer I’d pay extra for that.


Well, their website claims "90% lower emissions than a vessel with a diesel engine" so evidently they use some form of engine, or they'd be claiming 100% lower! i would guess it's like most sailing boats, and it has a small(-ish) engine and prop for use when docking/maneuvering up close/no wind, and also a genset for onboard electrical power.


You'd probably do the same thing that powered ships do: build extra time into the schedule so that you never arrive late. This ship probably needs more padding because it relies on the wind, but the whole concept seems to be that that's an acceptable tradeoff for the environmental gains.


FYR Amazon has the AWS Snow Family with the largest being a 45ft TEU, while Microsoft does Azure Data Boxes that are somewhat smaller.


from a European point of view, the market belongs to the people, not Apple and thus they must play by the rules the State set, for and on the behalf of the people.


this was delightful to read !


Byzantines were in fact well known for their diplomacy.



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