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My goto for this lately has been ephemeralpg [0] and pgTAP [1]. It’s been pretty great

[0] https://github.com/eradman/ephemeralpg [1] https://github.com/theory/pgtap


Reminds me of Feynman’s Cargo Cult Science speech:

https://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~ravenben/cargocult.html


Yeah, I’m in the midst of building out something for this. Involves a few pieces, the first is being able to apply the files in the right order https://github.com/joshainglis/topcat Essentially the output of that should be a file that should drop and recreate everything. Easy to build some automation around. And if you’re just operating on functions and views ect that should be all you need to allow a tree based code-base. If you also want to handle tables etc you’ll want to add a diffing tool (migra, atlas) etc.


Will take a look, thank you!


It's been a while since I've used Perplexity, but I've been finding the Kagi Assistant super useful. I'm on the ultimate plan, so I get access to the `Expert` assistant. It's been pretty great.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/assistant.html


I had this momentarily, but then it disappeared after a refresh. Guessing a feature flag got switched on a little too early. Will be interesting to see how it works. Wonder if it will RAG your chat history.


Guilty as charged… it’s just such a great experience and the incentives align.


Very happy paying Kagi search and Orion browser user here. Just want to send some general good vibes your way. I really love what you guys are doing, and this just adds to that.


Can’t speak for SQL _in general_ but in Postgres land pgTAP is wonderful. Invest in writing some factory functions, and you have the ability to write a very expressive test suite. We use Postgres functions to provide a data interface that is thoroughly tested. This allows us to ensure that any migration does not break any contracts.


I think I’m this is a commonly stated fact, but I don’t find it particularly true. Like any other technology, you just need to put in some initial effort to set up your test framework. In the case of PostgreSQL, pgTAP does a great job.


It is commonly stated and I found it to be very true. PostgreSQL is quite advanced in its procedural aspects (Oracle isn't too far behind either) but they were not made with particular focus on debugging. I'll need to have hacks like creating temp tables to dump records at a given stage vs simply setting a breakpoint. I can unit test the shit out of bog standard Java code; PL/SQL for all its capabilities doesn't even come close. The one area this tilts to the other side is when you need to do heavy processing with high volume of data on database side; a well written stored proc would handily outperform application side logic simply due to the network latency involved. But for typical use cases, putting complex business logic in stored procs just isn't worth it.


I asked GPT-4 to give me a prompt to use with it in order to set up a game of tic tac toe and it came up with a similar representation and played successfully.

https://pastebin.com/83iZjHuc

I'm still blown away that this is possible.


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