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Eventually there will just database tables, some skill files, and an agent

yes, and its funny that all these critical people dont know this


so you can use the full operating system


More importantly iMessage


And get hacked via prompt injection


That’s why people buy separate machines / use VPS.


The wright brothers first plane was also dangerous


This is more titan submersible than first plane.

It’s dumb, everyone knows it’s dumb, and people do it anyways. The unsolved root problem isn’t new but people just moved ahead. At least with the sub the guy had some skin in the game. Openclaw dev is making out like a bandit while saying “tee hee the readme says this isn’t safe”.


And universally across the globe societies have decided that flying them requires:

* Pilots to have a license and follow strict proceedure

* Every plane to have a government registration which is clearly painted on the side

* ATC to coordinate

* Manufacturers to meet regulations

* Accident review boards with the power to mandate changes to designs and procedures

* Airlines to follow regulations

Not to mention the cost barrier-to-entry resulting in fundamentally different calculation on how they are used.


In America, any rando can build and fly an ultralight, no pilot license needed, no medical, no mandatory inspection of the ultralight or anything like that. I guess the idea is that 250 lbs (plus pilot) falling from the sky can't do that much damage.


Flight / aerospace is probably one of the worst analogies to use here!

As you say, it is one of the most regulated industries on earth. Versus whatever AI is now - regulated by vibes? Made mass accessible with zero safety or accountability?


All the aerospace rules are written in blood. Lots of blood. The comparison pretty much says that we have to expect lethal accidents related to AI


Or just lethal intent.

... Or lethality as a byproduct of vast resource extraction.


> And universally across the globe societies have decided

No. Nobody decided anything of the sort about the wright brothers first plane. If they had, planes would not exist.


It also had a total of 2 users, if that.

It doesn't hold. This is a prototype aircraft that requires no license and that has been mass produced for nearly the entire population of earth to use.


Speaking of which, prototype aircrafts with no license still exists in aviation. I can build a plane in my backyard and fly it legally, so long as it's small enough.


We're already well past wright brothers. We have trillion dollar companies selling LLMs, hundreds of millions of people using chatbots and millions* of OpenClaw agents running.

Talking about regulation now isn't like regulating the wright brothers, it's like regulating lockheed martin.

* Going by moltbook's "AI agent" stat, which might be a bit dubious


But we didn't have thousands of people suddenly flying in their planes a few months from their first flight.

Now, the risks with OpenClaw are lower, you're not likely to die if something goes wrong, but still real. A lot of folks are going to have a lot of accounts hijacked, lose cryptocurrency and money from banks, etc.


Wow what an amazing analogy, you're absolutely right!


To continue the false equivalence - alchemists believed Magnum Opus will lead one day to Philosopher's Stone.


Because the Wright brothers knew their first plane was dangerous, they took care to test it (and its successor, and its successor's successor) only in empty fields where the consequences of failure would be extremely limited.


The big difference is that we didn’t incentivize or coerce the entire global population to ride on it.


Years and years ago I went to a "Museum of Flight" near San Diego (I think, but not the one in Balboa Park). I joked, after going through the whole thing, that it was more a "Museum of those who died in the earliest days of flying".


What the fuck is wrong with you people? You are glaring over the technology, defending it as the coming of christ and have no sense for security? Are you serious?


I worked there a long time ago. Indian VPs were taking kickbacks from consulting firms to hire their devs, it was an open secret. Whole divisions of the company are 95% Indian.

I wont expose the group here, but there's a broad network of technology directors from Amex, that have all been hiring and promoting eachother for 20 years. Very tight nit networks of nepotism, in some cases, brother and sister working together

All that really matters is the Amex brand, and so all the tech was considered back office, and unimportant.

Also, once a company enters some kind of monopoly status, very little matters in the quality of their product.


Amex has less than 10% worldwide market share and is a distant 4th behimd unionpay, visa, mc. I don't see the monopoly here.

I have to say I was relieved when my Amex card issuer switched to visa because owning an Amex is a pita. I think they build their business on various rewards programs, the brand itself is garbage in my eyes.


This happened to the company I worked for also. Blatant corruption. One Indian guy gets appointed to VP, then almost immediately all their reporting chain is Indian. Managers are told they can only hire from some obscure Indian staffing company (that the VP has a stake in or gets bribed to use). Quality is garbage cause no self respecting Indian dev would work for them.

Zero pushback from exec level, zero acknowledgment even though it's obvious. Very deflating for employees.


This happens everywhere. The bigger difference here is that most in this board identify with white anglosaxan, so when they bring in their peers you build the false illusion that if you work hard you will join the club. heh. you won't.


the power of openclaw is theres no sand boxing


Or you design the sandbox so smartly that is seamless...


Even worse, look at white collar job growth among american citizens. It has been negative for years


Yeah I think people need to start asking the question, "Where is the money going". Its not just inexistent, its literally going somewhere other than your pocket.


They're not voting against their own self interest; they just have different interests than you. Their primary interest and goal is making sure their out-group is hurting, and that is what they are voting for, regardless of that happens to them.


theres alot of denial, and people that havent taken a serious look at the ai models


baffled that people are still suspicious of ai coding models


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