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> The top 2 money recipients are 2 feminists which have never seen a line of code in their lives (one of them doesn't even have a github account!).

Ashe and Shanley? Ashe is a programmer, and Shanley was working as a programmer until she founded a media startup.

I do find the hangup people have on GitHub in particular weird, though. I have very little code on public GitHub repositories. Why? KDE, GNOME, and Ubuntu all have their own code hosting. I spent years working almost exclusively on projects that were large enough to have their own server farm. And then, of course, there's Sourceforge.


Since more recently published court documents have shown this to be a sexual assault / rape and domestic violence arrest, some statistics are in order.

Particularly relevant is the fact that only 14-18% of sexual assault cases are prosecuted, or 37% for rape alone. http://www.uky.edu/CRVAW/files/TopTen/07_Rape_Prosecution.pd...

Given that, it would actually be highly unusual if he DID go to trial.


> Since more recently published court documents have shown this to be a rape and domestic violence arrest

Wanted to ask you for a link, went on and found one myself:

http://ia701204.us.archive.org/19/items/gov.uscourts.ord.115...


Depending on your proportions, some necklines might work better for movement or fit. Like, high necklines on a rectangular t-shirt, if you're well-endowed, have a tendency to creep up and get all chokey. Scoop necks do a better job of this.

Some people might consider scoop neck to be "low cut" (because the collar bones are visible--something generally not accepted/expected of men) while others might not call something "low cut" til cleavage is visible.

Now, a button-up shirt does a nice job of leaving space for your throat so you don't feel like you're choking, but in case you haven't noticed, it can be difficult these days to find button-up shirts for women that have all the buttons. It has become extremely common to manufacture women's blouses without the second button, or rather, with the second button roughly 6 inches below the first one. I suspect this is due to rules in schools and workplaces allowing for the top button to be left unbuttoned. That way, you're following the rule and showing some decolletage. I once went through every button-up blouse I could find at Target. I came away with having found one rack that had shirts with an upper-chest button. (Oh, and if you button all the buttons on one that's missing that upper-chest one, it just gapes open)

If the shirt itself is not quite wide enough to accommodate being well-endowed, a lower neckline can allow the fabric to move horizontally to better fit around the girth involved by opening up a bit wider. On the one hand, you could get a bigger size (if that's even available--there are limits), but if you've got a small waist, there's a tailoring problem for you. And if you've got shoulders that are narrow but a chest that isn't, that's a much more difficult tailoring problem.

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Re: bar. I'd rather be asked "read any good books lately?" than told "that dress makes your boobs look good." But then I'm someone commenting on Hacker News, so that might be to be expected.

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Re: your wife. I suspect there's a standing agreement with her regarding how you interact in terms of expressing your sexuality. I doubt you'd comment to a male coworker on how his trousers make his lower half look, but if you were married to a man, you might to him.


Thank you for pointing out the nuances of female tops commonly available today and how they look on different body shapes.

With regard to button-up shirts, tailoring is a much bigger problem for women's shirt than men's shirt. Ready-made men's shirts are measured in collar size in 1/2" increments and sleeve length in 2" increments. This allow for much better fit, as men's shoulder and chest measurements tend to correlate with these two numbers.

For women's shirts, you're at the whim of the mythical "sizes" running usually in increments of 2 from 0 to 14 (larger if you're at the "plus" section). Each size up is usually scaled up at all measurements: chest, shoulder, waist, collar, shirt length and sleeve length.

In other words, even though there's a much wider variety in women's body shapes than in men's, men's shirts' come in much finer increments in terms of sizing.

In addition to the problems you've describe, I have a few more gripes regarding button-up shirts:

There's the problem of large gaps opening up in between buttons for the well-endowed, thus offering others glimpses of your undergarment (read: bra). Opting for a larger size would make the shirt too loose ("not fit") at the shoulders.

Another common problem with button-up shirts for women is, they tend to run much shorter than men's shirts, as they are intended to be worn not tugged in. Depending on body shape and the cut of the bottom garment, certain movements (such as raising the entire arm) may expose skin along and possible above the waistline.

Unfortunately, button-up shirts are part of the de facto business casual attire. Depending on the physical environment, adding a vest, cardigan, or jacket for cover-up may not be suitable or desirable. (Female jackets tend to hang above the hip bones anyway, so they're not offering much help in the regard of protecting skin from being exposed.)

In other words, no, I don't want to expose my skin or cleavage in the office, but sometimes it's unavoidable.


I do #1 backwards because LinuxChix was my introduction to the world of online tech communities.


I like to non-verbally snark, by breaking people's brains.

I wear long skirts all the time, and sometimes I cover my hair. So I must be traditionalist/conservative, right? No, I just don't like how jeans are all about objectifying my butt and also never fit right. Some of my coverings keep my hair nicely off the back of my neck in the summer, others let me have pretty flowy fabric (I like textiles). I'm pretty clearly not a booth babe with that skirt though, so maybe I'm a girlfriend? Oh wait, the shirt I'm wearing is from an Ubuntu Developer Summit. Hmm... Wait, but I'm knitting, back to the girlfriend idea, maybe? Oh nevermind, this is too confusing, how about talking instead of trying to guess?

I have noticed, btw, that a large portion of female developers knit or crochet. Maybe it's because knitting & crochet patterns look a lot like code, complete with for-loops and while-loops. Also, ya know, make a scarf, make a website, make a pie...make stuff!


a lot of female sf fandom is into knitting, crochet and the like too. i wouldn't even blink if i saw you at an sf con, and by extension i probably wouldn't be surprised at a dev event either (rightly or wrongly i tend to assume a fair amount of overlap among the two groups)


Or one sexually inappropriate comment, one "fetch me coffee," one "apparently I'm a secretary now..." and one "we're all dudes here right?" type comment.


You can express empathy with the other person though. And in English, at least, this is commonly done using apologetic language, "I am sorry that you feel that way and I understand that you are upset" etc.

No, "I'm sorry I made you feel that way" or "I'm sorry I hurt you."


So get your preferred groups to make use of the handy widgets PopVox makes available for easily contacting Congress on whatever their important-bill-of-the-moment is. https://www.popvox.com/services/widgets

(You can embed them in your personal homepage too. It's free. I've got an anti-SOPA one on my homepage.)


If you and ten other people shared a BugMeNot account, that'd mean your opinions and those ten others would all be grouped as one user, meaning it wouldn't ACTUALLY represent your views. Also, Congress requires your REAL name and your REAL address to contact them, otherwise the Congresscritters' online forms reject the email as being not from their constituent.


It's not a paywall. It's free.

Here's how it works: you use PopVox to communicate with Congress, sending support or oppose messages which are publicly tallied so all can see which way any given Congresscritter's distric was leaning. This tool then shows you, bill by bill, whether your two senators and congressperson voted the way you told them to through PopVox.

If you contact them some other way, PopVox can't possibly know that (nor can anyone but your congresscritter, so there's no accountability), so it's useless without an account.


Its a paywall. Just I have to pay with info rather than money. It is not free.

To accomplish the goal of knowing how my congresscritter (really?) matches with me, I should not need an account. If I wanted you to contact them for me then OK but to call the site useless without an account just makes it so.


I don't work for PopVox, so I'm gonna stick with "Congresscritter" :)

Anyway, I guess you were expecting one of those hokey quizzes news sites have that never really cover the bases properly. shrug PV's actual purpose is to enhance constituent communications. That means your messages to Congress route through them so they can sprinkle on loads of metadata and make it easier for the Congressional aids to sort through while at the same time providing public accountability. This personalized bill-by-bill member-by-member thing is newly added on top of that larger main goal.

I use it because I like that accountability thing (transparency, woo!), and I have enough friends that used to have to sort through paper letters to the offices they worked in who have warned me that I will make staffers hate me if I send paper letters ;)


Oh that's pretty cool then. I didn't realize. Maybe you should have a message explaining that?


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