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You can use swift on the server but what for? You have a gigantic ecosystems in languages X,Y,Z.

Even Apple does not use Swift on the server (AFAIK) so why would you?


What, of course Apple uses Swift on the server, that's the only reason they're investing in any of this. Many of the foundational Swift on the server libraries were written at Apple and later opened, like SwiftNIO.

That's outright false:

https://www.swift.org/blog/swift-at-apple-migrating-the-pass...

You could have easily fact-checked before forming an opinion, but at least the buffoon down there agreeing with you is worse


Man you gotta touch some grass instead of just insulting people.

Smoking grass can also help with this

I personally worked on several server-side Swift projects at Apple.

> Even Apple does not use Swift

Exactly true - they've created all these "working groups" of open source / volunteers to care for Android / Server / Wasm / ... all while being constraint "as an Apple product". Of course the end result is crappy


Yea there is no incentive. Why use Swift on the server or in k8s when you have gazillion other languages that are performant and have the ecosystems.

Swift lives only for macOS,iOS and besides those ecosystems does not have a solid and robust ecosystem to be used for anything else.

It's a shame but it for sure needs BigTech for it to be used anywhere else.


I still have hope Swift will break free like C# has. I hope one day something like Vapor or Kitura takes off.

I guess what Swift misses compared to C# is enterprise usage.

I take what I said back then. I hope Swift never breaks out and is spared the fate of enterprise usage.

If Swift was paired with smh like QT/GTK (could have replaced Vala) it would've been interesting.


smh?

"something"

Wouldn't that be smth and smh is "shaking my head"?

I'm not a native English speaker, just interested in the vernacular.


I think it's not about that but about dogfooding Swift on the server. Apple uses Go, Java etc for a lot of its server components and refused to invest in hiring people that would extend the ecosystem for server Swift.

Thats the problem.


It certainly doesn't help, but among big tech, Apple is not the only company where teams are siloed and independent. Microsoft has people writing Java or Go instead of C# too.

I assume the server side usage is not zero, but not enough to reach a critical mass, you're probably right there.


ARC is a form of garbage collection. Swift does not fare better than Go usually.

Nano-texture is worth the upgrade if you are on a macbookpro whatever M<cpu> and dont have it.

For those of us with astigmatism it's really night and day experience.


I was considering it but got cold feet when I've been told that you could damage it when cleaning it. When I open/close my laptop I leave a ton of finger prints. I'm not too good with delicate hardware stuff.


I clean mine routinely and it's fine for me. I did recently start keeping a thin cleaning cloth on my keyboard for when I close it though. Oil from my fingers on the keyboard was getting on the screen.


What cleaning agent do you use? A dry cloth will not remove finger grease.


isopropyl alcohol, 70%, as a first pass, soapy water after that. I might skip the isopropyl if things aren't too bad. This is per apple's own recommendations.


Why are you touching the screen when you open/close your laptop??? Do you close your car doors with the window?


My screen gets fingerprints from the keyboard, maybe that's what he meant.


Car door windows often have a significant frame of several cm and it's still quite easy to have your fingertips touch the glass while closing it.

On a laptop I would imagine it's actually more likely that fingertips would touch the screen while opening it.


My car has frameless windows and closing the door with them is not recommended.


> Nano-texture is worth the upgrade if you are on a macbookpro whatever M<cpu> and dont have it.

Oh really, it's universally better?

> For those of us with astigmatism it's really night and day experience.

Oh. So it's better for someone else with a specific eye condition, who is practically guaranteed to never use a MacBook that I buy?


lmao you're coming in pretty hot, stephen. it is actually possible that from time to time you may encounter comments written on the internet that do not perfectly reference every aspect of your lived experience


It's also possible to make a comment on the internet that clearly identifies the context of what you're saying, rather than implying something is a universal truth.


the comment is 30 words long and refers to an eye condition that 1/3 of all people on earth have. will two other people ever look at your laptop lol


Oh the audacity of not catering to my specific persona


There are no european alternatives. These are all european companies but they dont benefit the whole union.

If a germany company gets big it will eat other european markets leaving nothing in those markets and then beg Merz for more immigrants to Germany instead of hiring other europeans.


Stop being racist. Immigrants are given the lowest level type of jobs which nobody wants to do anymore. Others are then prospering to better jobs. That's how you keep the economy growing.


It's not 2015 any more, people aren't buying that any more. Nuance is allowed in the discussion


Buying exactly what? Bus and taxi drivers, people working in the supermarkets, in the low cost stores, food chains, delivery services, call agent support, then the workers in the industry plants etc etc

Are you suggesting that locals are doing that type of work?


Apologies, I have the flu and totally misread the meaning. Ignore me


But I can move freely to Germany and get employed there as an EU citizen. Or, my competitors in the job market do, leaving more jobs for men And taxes pain in Germany also goes to the common EU budget. So the success of a German company also benefits me in another EU country.

Isn’t the relationship exactly the same as a company in my country, but another town? I could also gripe that jobs in that other town will not pay my municipality’s taxes.


Japan's decline is not a result of late stage capitalism but their inability to adapt and change cultural expectations and norms.

It's decline stems from favoring bullshit work over efficiency, change and adaptation.


Are we not rapidly trending thither in the west as well?


Japan is only in economic decline, we in the west are in a societal decline, we just lie to ourselves that we're not, due to the fiscalisation tricks we employ to pump up bullshit metrics like GDP graph and the DOW(cough Pam Bondi cough), that only benefit the top 10% asset owners, as if that means anything to the average city worker who lives paycheck to paycheck, has six figure debt, lives surrounded by homeless people and hears gunshots at night in the background.

The economy != society.


I am eastern european and yes we do too but not to such extent.


>It's decline stems from favoring bullshit work over

Does Japan really stand out in this regard?


There are absolutely some (very) weird cultures/behaviours in the Japanese workplace that do set them apart from every other first-world country I've experienced (working in global organisations).


"Never nuke a country twice" for anyone who wants to know more.


Yes it does. Japan has a top down culture which does not see change as something useful.


This is not true. It's just "dodgy security/spyware" startups are more open coming from Israel that they exist than the myriad of hidden companies that you never heard about because they focus on tailored exploits.


Doubt this. Europeans are "euroracist", protectionist and unable to see the bigger picture.

As a european I have exited the continent, sold all my properties and will never return to this place ever again.


> As a european I have exited the continent, sold all my properties and will never return to this place ever again.

Where did you move to?


100% guarantee either Thailand or Singapore. Always the case with these types of posts.


Well Singapore has higher economic freedom index than most (all) places in Europe, except maybe Lichtenstein which is sometimes not ranked.


Singapore is a very racist place and has an authoritarian regime.


Why is Europe being outdone by authoritarian racists? Singapore started out as a little shithole in the corner of Malaysia, nothing particularly special to start from and a long ways from any rich country to trade with, maybe you can learn something from the racists.


1.) Someone complains about racism in Europe. In this regard Singapore is not an alternative. 2.) Sure European countries can learn something from Singapore or China. But definitely not on topics like racism and freedom of press. 3.) Was Singapore a shithole place giving its location? I doubt it because it started as a harbour where location matters. On the other hand Singapore government was quiet capable. So very interwined topic and longer discussion is needed.


Singapore executes transit travellers with personal amounts of drugs and men with long hair. Not my picture of freedom, no matter what their economy is doing.


A ban from the 60s refused entry to hippies, it fell out of use and was removed from the books early in the 1990s.

At no point in time were Led Zeppelin, the Bee Gees, Cliff Richard, Kitarō or other long haired men transiting Singapore during that period (1960-1990) executed.


Not very free regardless.


Like the USofA, freedom in Singapore is f(wealth).

Legally, justice wise, it's still rooted in English common law from it's time as a colony prior to the British getting over run by Japanese on bicycles.

Even its class bigotry is rooted in colonial British attitudes.


It's wild watching people damn them for being authoritarian, yet by various polls 77% of Singapore want the death penalty for drug traffickers. This is high enough that i.e. in USA it would definitely be popular enough to pass an amendment to civil rights to guarantee execution even if the freedom from jeopardy to death penalty had been prior enshrined.

When "authoritarianism" used to secure economic freedom, "authoritarianism" bad. When authoritarianism used to stop the majority from executing drug traffickers, authoritarianism ... good?


Which polls? Political elections? Professional polls from experts? Or some random poll on the streets from some TV-Station or influencer? People also answer very different depending on the prospected outcome, thus the "seriousness" of their answer.

> This is high enough that i.e. in USA it would definitely be popular enough to pass an amendment to civil rights to guarantee execution even if the freedom from jeopardy to death penalty had been prior enshrined.

And legal system in Singapore works like USA? This seems like a strange claim.


>Which polls? Political elections? Professional polls from experts? Or some random poll on the streets from some TV-Station or influencer?

All the above. Political elections of people that are pro death penalty, professional polls commissioned by the MHA (and done continually in separate years), and also you can hear them from people on the streets if that's your preferred way.

>People also answer very different depending on the prospected outcome, thus the "seriousness" of their answer.

It's not simply a "prospected" outcome, the people in the polls literally are living in a country actively doing it and has been doing it for quite awhile. The information is out there to see what they're getting.

>And legal system in Singapore works like USA? This seems like a strange claim.

This is your fifth consecutive interrogative cross-examination question which is clearly aimed at presenting a counter-narrative without having to use the courage of making any assertions of your own, I only note here that your "question" implies a straw man that I've presented they work the same. But if you insist, the requirement of amending Singapore constitution is easily met in the context of the death penalty for drugs (2/3 MP + possibly 2/3 national referendum), were it that their civil rights were prior codified there to prohibit it.


The Germans voted for Hitler. That doesn't mean Hitler was good.


Of course not. But show me a good system where 23% minority of the people can define civil rights in contradiction to the 77% and you will be better off, because that's the only way you can answer my prior question with inconsistencies presented.


Sure. It's any system where the 77% want something really bad, and the 23% don't. For example, a system where 77% of people want drug traffickers executed and 23% don't. That's a system where listening to the 23% is better than listening to the 77%.

A system like this cannot remain stable, and because it's unstable, it is not good.


Of course. Where else?


Many countries in EU will have a similar QR code payment system like Thailand based on SEPA. Slovakia is rolling out its own in 2026.

The problem is to standardize all these things built on top of SEPA to work across the UNION.



There is already a QR payment standard. You can pay a Thai-QR with a Malaysian Wallet.


PromptPay use is different from SEPA. My comment was meant that QR payments are already possible with SEPA in EU it's just there exist different systems built on top of SEPA which are not cross compatible and available across the member states.


My point is, there is a standard for QR payments (I think it's ISO 5201 but it was a long time since I dealt with that). Cross-border support will depend on the country/bank support; but theoretically if everyone adopt it, you'll be able to scan any country QR and then use your wallet to transfer funds (assuming your bank support cross-border payments).

I think ASEAN largely adhere to the standard though the cross-border part is limited to ASEAN.


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