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I do not think historians will write about the metaverse at all.

Maybe it'll be a case study in business schools for a while, but I think that'll be the extent of its legacy


Probably refering to his nazi salute, and support for far-right neo-nazi groups like AfD in Germany

That's what I thought.

The "Nazi salute" was just a cringy rendition of the "my heart goes out to you" thing. I can find dozens of other famous people doing something similar.

And the AfD isn't a neo-Nazi group.


If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck..... then we have to entertain the possibility we might be dealing with a duck.

Why defend him?

> I can find dozens of other famous people doing something similar.

The interpretation can be doubted, but you have to give credit to Elon Musk for being an actual techno-fascist coming from a family of pro-apartheid racists. Maybe it's not technically a nazi salute, but you can't argue it's not a fascist salute given his political inclinations.

> And the AfD isn't a neo-Nazi group.

Please read up on the AfD. They have nazi references in their propaganda, actual nazis in their ranks, and an actual nazi program. On that last point, when they plan secret meetings for deporting wrong-race german citizens, that's straight out of Hitler's playbook, and was his solution before the "final solution" (mass extermination).

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're simply uninformed and not actually downplaying nazism. Happy to provide sources for a specific point if you can't find any.


As someone who literally grew up next to Auschwitz - the attempts to excuse Elon's Nazi salute as anything but exactly that are just sickening. Those who don't study history are bound to repeat it, indeed. "My heart goes out to you" - a man literally doing a sieg heil. Bloody hell.

I don't see that growing up next to Auschwitz makes you an expert in this area.

It wasn't a Nazi salute, and that should be obvious.


It absolutely is a Nazi salute, and it should be obvious to anyone.

>>I don't see that growing up next to Auschwitz makes you an expert in this area.

Something about being taught about this stuff endlessly at school and seeing it brought up all the time in your immediate neighbourhood makes you recognize when it happens - I guess that's just how it works.


It was so obviously a Nazi salute, and anyone denying it is lying. Either to themselves or to others.

I get that Musk isn't popular here, but the idea people would assign that kind of motive to what was just an awkward moment is just sick.

I don't know dude - I think pretending it isn't what it very obviously is is just morally and intellectually bankrupt. We can cover our eyes and ears and pretend this isn't happening - and maybe it might even work for us and we might be spared the return of fascism as a normalized force in our society if things go right. Or we can just call it for what it is and not support it by trying to excuse it.

>> what was just an awkward moment

The whole idea that the self-proclaimed "most intelligent man on earth" didn't know what he was doing and it was actually some kind of heart felt awkward gesture is again, dishonest at best.


> The "Nazi salute" was just a cringy rendition of the "my heart goes out to you" thing

Okay, you believe what you want, I guess.

> And the AfD isn't a neo-Nazi group.

Uh, huh. Sure.


You have to convince three sets of people to move any tanker through the Straight:

- the crew - the company - the insurer

The company has an obvious reason to take on some amount of risk to move a vessel through the Straight. However, both the crew and the insurer will be quite risk averse, so the Navy would need to demonstrate a very high success rate in intercepting both missiles and shaheds to convince those two other groups to say "yes".


The IRGC is 125k-150k people. Many of them are pot committed to the current government, because the IRGC has done... unforgivable things that a new government would be likely to punish.

Venezuela is also run by the same security apparatus and government as it was before. We didn't attempt to turn over the entire government.


>The IRGC is 125k-150k people.

Takes Ukrainians 4 months to kill that amount. What you are saying winning is quite doable.


You... simply cannot take the numbers from one war and blindly apply them to a totally different one. The comparison isn't apt for a number of reasons.

First, Russians are generally on the offensive, which means pushing into Ukrainian controlled territory.

Often, they are pushing into defensive lines that have had years of fortification.

Second, there are a lot more Russians in Ukraine. To kill 125k people, you have to find 125k people. It's a lot easier to find a Russian in Ukraine that it will be to find an IRGC soldier in Iran if there's an invasion and guerilla operations in response.

In Iraq after the conventional military phase, the US killed ~26k insurgents over the course of a decade (and also captured ~120k).

Iran is bigger than Iraq, has far more people than Iraq, and has much bigger logistical burdens for an invasion.

I could believe that the US Military is quite capable of running some small scale targeted operations within Iran successfully. We can probably pull off operations to do things like attempt to seize and secure uranium stockpiles if we know where they are (though such an operation could also go catastrophically badly, too).

I think the US Military could invade Iran and topple the regime, but it would be an enormous lift, and I think there's almost no chance we would have the political will to sustain the costs and casualties that a total invasion would entail.


thats in a scenario with soldiers pushing into no mans land under permanent drone control. Israel demonstrates much lower stats when enemy hides underground. I would imagine having no boots on the ground will lower the numbers further.

> It's not a big threat to the US. The US is a net oil exporter, has the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and, if absolutely necessary, Trump could make up with Canada so those oil imports restart.

The SPR is 58% full, so... not empty but also not all the way full.

Additionally, even though we're a net oil exporter, we're not insulated from the global oil market rates. Local producers aren't going to sell into America more cheaply than they can sell internationally, so if international rates spike, prices will go up domestically too.

If the Straight of Hormuz remains closed for an extended period of time, we'll definitely feel the pinch domestically.


Most of them have promised to issue refunds to customers if and when they get refunded the money.

FedEx:

> Our intent is straightforward: if refunds are issued to FedEx, we will issue refunds to the shippers and consumers who originally bore those charges. When that will happen and the exact process for requesting and issuing refunds will depend in part on future guidance from the government and the court.

https://www.fedex.com/en-us/shipping/international/us-tariff...


Thanks for that reference. I can only hope. Unfortunately, I just paid a UPS bill for the new tariffs.

> I’m imagining a loitering munition-type drone that has some kind of targeting package loaded into it with different parameters describing what it should seek and destroy. Instead of waiting for intelligence and using human command to put the munition on target, it hangs out and then engages when it’s certain enough that it’s found something valid.

I'm sorry, you've just literally described a "killer robot" in more words.


Yeah, I guess my point is that “killer robot” evokes a terminator-like image for a lot of people. Something that marches around and kills of its own accord. I don’t like either one, but I don’t think they’re the same thing.

The only saving grace is that the killbots had a pre-set kill limit which I exceeded by throwing wave after wave of my own men at them until they simply shut down.

> illegal citizens

???


The term doesn't matter. If you haven't been approved to be in a country, you shouldn't be in said country.

You don't go walking into the Amazon Head Office and walk up to the Executives Offices. You aren't allowed, why do you think this is acceptable?

Sneaking into the office (country) and then benefiting seems not right, what am I missing?


A citizen is always someone who has a legal right to be in the country.

They may be imprisoned in the country if they have committed a crime, but a citizen always has a legal right to be in the country.


All my ancestors had to do to become American citizens was get on a boat in Europe and not shit themselves to death by the time it arrived in New York. Why should it be any harder than that?

Society has changed. Laws practically didn't exist back then, should we go back to a near lawless society? Should we bring slavery back? Should we prevent woman from working, driving, voting?

Isn’t it a bit hypocritical to bring up laws, when the current administration really doesn’t adhere to them? Congress today barely does any work, Supreme Court is entirely partisan, and the president is taking bribes in the open.

In any case it’s not the deportation that most people necessarily have an issue with, it’s how they go about doing it. They even killed citizens in the process. Obama deported quite a few.


You don't even know when my ancestors came over. Why do you think they were on the mayflower and not on a boat headed to Ellis island in the 1900s? We very much had laws back then, though appealing to the existence of immigration laws is a piss poor argument.

“Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice.” — Henry David Thoreau


> Apple, Google, Microsoft, Nvidia etc. just bend the knee.

Vidkun Quisling


I mean... that could be a little "no true scotsman" at that point, though.

I think the most useful interpretation of the previous post is Set A is "the set of developers who appeared sane before the arrival of AI agents" and Set B is "the set of developers who are completely ignoring security considerations".


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