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From 20:34 CEST the connection between servers and from outside to some of them are down


Feels pretty nasty - I host a single droplet for non-critical stuff, and I can't get any details from the console for it either. Not sure if it's still running in the background or completely dead.

Be interesting to see how long it goes on for, its been a few hours now with no updates.

https://twitter.com/DOStatus/status/1308495463092371456 <-- Twitter seems to be collecting people asking, but not really much in the public eye.

Waits patiently for an update

EDIT @ 22:16 BST (22:16 UTC)

Just got this as an email. Interesting... --- Start: 2020-09-22 22:00:00 (UTC) Hello,

We have identified an issue on the physical machine hosting one or more of your Droplets, which are listed below. In order to minimize disruption, we will be migrating the Droplets to a healthier physical machine. Throughout the migration, Control Panel and API events - including: power offs, resizes, and attempts to destroy the Droplet - will not succeed for the affected Droplet(s).

In order to minimize downtime, we will attempt to perform live migrations in all possible cases. A live migration would result in no downtime, but minor performance decreases in disk I/O and a second or less of packet loss as the network is switched over to the new physical host.

In the event that we are not able to perform a live migration of a Droplet, we will perform an offline migration during which the Droplet will be powered off and migrated offline during the window.

We apologize for any inconvenience and will be happy to answer any questions or concerns - simply reply to this email or open a support ticket on your account.

Best Regards, DigitalOcean Cloud Operations ---


And Pujol(ex president of Catalonia with money in Andorra, and some of his son in jail) cases? The 3% percent... From Huelva to Girona all sucks and the corruption is everywhere. Pujol one day said: "if I talk everything is going to be destroyed" because everyone knows that the other stole money but nobody talk


Not sure why constantly saying "u more!" is an argument at all to deny population voting. Childish if you ask me.


I didn't say you more. I said some examples to say that in all the country it's the same with the corruption. I said anything about the vote in this comment


it's a matter of magnitudes :-)


Because was a legal referendum from the UK government, it's very different with the Catalonia referendum


The notion of a referendum being "illegal" is farcical. No democracy should prohibit people from deciding to get together and conduct a poll on something.


The idea of a referendum being "illegal" may be counter-intuitive, but I don't think the situation is as simple as you suggest.

For example, secession (not to mention sedition or treason) is illegal in many jurisdictions, and is a natural thing for sovereign countries to want to prevent. It is also natural for the sovereign central government of a country to put limits on what a regional government can and cannot do, with the usual principle being that the regional government cannot do anything outside of the powers specifically given it by the central government (regardless of what powers the inhabitants of that region want).

You're right that "people" could "get together and conduct a poll on something", but if this was informally conducted it would be hard to prevent double voting, and not accidentally disenfranchising certain people, and there would be little recourse against these self-appointed pollsters stuffing their home-made ballot boxes.

At the same time, if a regional government spent money, or used people's personal information, for a purpose they were not legally permitted to, then those would potentially be crimes themselves, regardless of the issue of secession.

The questions worth debating are "How much autonomy should regions of sovereign countries be given?", and "If a region isn't legally given that much autonomy, what is most peaceful and just means for that region to attain it?"


Secession can certainly be illegal, but that simply means any outcome of an unsanctioned referendum is legally irrelevant.

As far as I can tell, Spain is going to great lengths to curtail the rights of citizens to express their opinions on secession. They're free to ignore the outcome of this vote, but raiding ISPs, shutting down political pamphlets, and reading private mail are not the actions of a democratic country—they're tactics straight out of an authoritarian regime.

Secession is also illegal in the US (and we fought a war to prove it), but you don't see federal agents arresting people for starting ballot initiatives in California or shutting down Vermont secession websites.


Neither do you see the government of California or Vermont organising a binding vote to secede from the US in 48 hours (while maintaining the US citizenship!).


How should countries be created then? If the central government doesn't let you do it legally and peacefully, that's on them.


The same people that are doing the referedum seized with the police ballot boxes and ballots for a vote in 2013


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