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The case for normalising poverty.


Sounds to me like a way to get out of poverty. If my rent is 1/2 to 1/4th what it would be otherwise then I can save that difference and get out of poverty faster than if I paid full rent.


Having roommates (aka sharing a home) when you leave your family home has been the norm forever. Roommates are not poverty


>Having roommates (aka sharing a home) when you leave your family home has been the norm forever. Roommates are not poverty

Poverty has been the norm forever. The idea of economic progress for the common person is barely 3 generations old.


Buying an old beater car as your first car has been the norm forever. But that’s because young people still have no wealth, ie they are poor, not because they don’t want a shiny Audi.


One could argue that for many people, isolation is a form of poverty.


Living alone is not living in isolation.

My three daughters are grown and have moved out and now I live alone in a four bedroom house.

Between work (in office mon-thurs, wfh fridays), my volunteer (fire department and watershed steward), fitness (yoga and lifting), and social club (amateur radio, astronomy, and makerspace) commitments, and my girlfriend (smart and beautiful)-- the 1-3 nights per week I get to come home and sit alone, in the dark, in my underwear, listening to the worst 90s techno ever produced at full volume are the only times I have to relax.

As an added bonus when you live alone you can accomplish many things that would be difficult and/or very costly with roommates. Very few people want to live in chaos for months as you methodically open up each wall in your 70-year-old house to run CAT6/HDMI/speaker wires in every room by working an hour or so during your precious few free nights and weekends.

(in my underwear, while listening to the worst 90s techno ever at full volume)


You could argue everything, but I’m pretty sure 99% of those sharing a flat are doing so because they can’t afford a flat for themselves, not because they enjoy the company.


It can also be a matter of preference. I lived alone after moving away from my family for a few years. For someone working long hours, far from home, with a demanding job, there is a particular kind of loneliness at coming home after dark to a cold, quiet home.

I ended up cohabitating with close friends after that for a solid decade, during which I met my wife who also joined us. It can be a wonderful arrangement if you have the right people and everyone is working to look after themselves and each other.


How about "the case for acknowledging the reality that actually exists, rather than trying to pretend it will go away if we ignore it"?


Find a pirate version if possible…


How exactly should they be terminated? 150 1:1 meetings?


Not only should my boss behave like he's putting down the family dog, I should be able to face my VP in single combat with my weapon of choice.


Best we can do is a 20 frag limit quake 3 deathmatch duel in q3dm17


I know your comment is going to be deleted because HN is not the place for these kind of comment, but you made me laugh loudly, so thank you.


This but without the irony.


That could work. 15 managers doing 10 1:1 meetings each isn't so hard. It can get tricky with people being on vacation etc. But very possible and normal.


Have you ever had to do these? 10 back to back layoffs is a rough day. I had to do 5 in one day once and had to seek out a very expensive hangover.

Sucks for everyone. I’ve been laid off by email, it’s fine.


maybe doing something wrong should be emotionally painful for managers and HR staff.


Not all layoffs are “wrong”; we maybe kept 200 people employed for a year or two longer than we would have by restructuring and laying off 20-30.

Net positive in my book. Of course on an individual level it sucks, these are people with dependants and so on, but so are the 200 who were saved.


That's not so good for the people remaining, or even those laid off but later in the queue. Once the first person gets laid off, everyone will know it's happening and be wondering whether they're included. You're just dragging out the suspense over the hours or (more likely) days those meetings take place, rather than getting it out of the way in a few minutes. That's probably worse than the dubious joy of a personalised message about your termination.

(Though, here in the UK, redundancy procedures can take weeks, so a few days is not much compared to that.)


What if their direct manager was also terminated? It could result in a manager's manager having such a large cohort as it to take several days while employees wait to see if they're fired or not (word would get out immediately).


Or some other unrelated manager doing the firing.


This is how I have seen it done. You end up with managers firing people they do not know, and employees getting 15 min meeting invites and knowing what it means. But it’s much more compassionate and human.


[JIRA] Your boss assigned HR-5678 to you.

HR: Atlassian / HR-5678

Acknowledge Receipt of Your Termination Notice


I was at Atlassian when a major product was cancelled which was based in the Austin office and MCB flew out to Austin to deliver the news that some would be laid off and others reassigned. I think a town hall over video chat would have been fine.


This is inconsequence!

Hipchat/Stride was a flop, because it was a poor product, poorly executed. Switch to Slack was a huge relief for everyone.

Atlassian support engineers used to be the best part of the service. Poor products + Great support = made Atlassian great


Hipchat was a success, which is why Atlassian purchased it, but Slack leapfrogged it and Stride was too late.

Not doubting the role that support plays for Atlassian. Just highlighting how I witnessed MCB handle a similar situation 7 years ago, by flying to Austin from Australia to deliver the sad news. The article makes him sound heartless or cold but that wasn't my experience. That being said, an async video message is a weird play.


Well they certainly shouldn’t tell everyone that a bunch of people are being fired and then to just wait and sit around and see if you get the email of doom.


Yes.


I suggest a coding challenge, and the first five to submit it and pass the functional tests can stay?


Accounting and marketing are not going to be happy.


But CEO said “Every person should be using AI daily for as many things as they can.”...


Yes? Wtf


A JIRA ticket with hundreds of legal dependencies.


At least a live mass meeting.


I swear there was a post not to long ago about a company that laid off a lot of employees in a live meeting, and it went badly, and people in the comments were saying "a prerecorded video would have been better". The duality of Internet forums, I guess...


I suggest a monster truck derby battle.

And we'll call it "Rehabilitation"


I don't understand. For you to see the message, you have to click on the link. Your clicking on the link must mean that the link is active, since it is getting clicks. So why is the link being deactivated for being inactive?


> showed no activity in late 2024

Apparently they measured it once by running a map-reduce or equivalent.

I don’t see why they couldn’t measure it again. Maybe they don’t want it to be gamed, but why?


I interpreted "inactive" as the link that the shortener is linking to is not responding.


No. Inactive means that the short URL hasn't been accessed in a while.


But that doesn’t make any sense. A link might be printed in a book. Nobody accessed it, yet they might at some point. Such a service is quite good for printing in books, instead of QR-codes.


It makes sense in a technical capacity, not in an epistemic one. I never claimed it is the right thing to do.


If I had to guess it is possibly something to do with fighting crawlers/bots/etc triggering the detection? And running some kind of more advanced logic to try ensure it's really being used. Light captcha style.

But just a guess.


Archive Warrior is actively scanning all links to try and preserve them. 2.5 billion have been processed at the time of writing

https://tracker.archiveteam.org/goo-gl/


Okay, then… As a user I’d expect the device not to waste any time connecting to my wireless network and getting a dhcp lease, instead being already connected when I open the lid.


Wait, low temperatures drain your battery? I would’ve expected the opposite.


IIRC it is the efficiency of the chemical process in the battery that is affected by cold temperatures. Different chemistries are affected differently.

This is a part of the reason why EVs will actually spend energy to warm up their battery packs in the cold, spending the energy to warm it up early will lead to better efficiency for the rest of the drive. Another reason why it's better to condition the car plugged in before starting a trip in the cold; the battery is already in its optimal temperature range.


I wouldn’t expect it to happen due to an AC unit, but yes, if you go out in -15°C or lower, absolutely do keep your phone in a pocket inside your coat or it’ll die very quickly (half an hour max). You might get some charge once you warm it back up, but then again you might not.


If you give the EU a lot of power, which some people in HN are in favour of, they will use it for good and bad. I’d rather they have no power and live without the good things. Those who celebrate the good things are too ignorant to realise that the power they use to do good things will eventually be used to do bad things.


How is that better than what the article describes? You need gas, electricity (outdoors!) and get constant fan noise.


I guess it depends a lot on your situation, but for OP's method to be effective you need to out-compete other breeding grounds in not only your backyard but also X feet/meters away (whatever distance mosquitoes typically fly to "hunt").

If there's a nice shallow pond on the property line 100 feet from your porch (or water filled tires at the sloppy neighbour or whatever it might be), I seriously doubt the efficacy of the method in the article.

This thing would lure in any mosquitoes (and unfortunately other things, as per sibling comment) that fly in your backyard, wherever they come from.

For electricity: That also of course depends, but around here it's not uncommon to have an outlet on the outside of some garage or outbuilding or something. The product I linked have a 50 feet cord as well. The fan noise has not been noticeable at all when I've seen it.


As they say there isn’t a single civilisation that has prospered by spending less energy.


Who is "they"?

In the EU, total energy consumption peaked ~20 years ago and has steadily fallen since then.

In the US, total energy consumption plateaued ~20 years ago. Per-capita it has fallen.

In Japan total energy consumption peaked, you guessed it, ~20 years ago.

I assert that for India and China as their per-capita consumption reaches a level somewhere between that of the US and EU, total energy consumption will plateau. China is almost there; India has some time yet to go.


So civilisations that are in decline had a peak of energy consumption a couple of decades ago? Whilst civilisations that are progressing keep using more energy? Are you sure this helps your argument?


I think there also isn't a single (known) civilization that has used this much either.

IMO we're in uncharted territory.


That was true of every single civilisation before ours.


Ah sorry, I thought he may be talking about the bombing of Belgrade :)


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