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kagi exists for quite some time

I was talking about a self-hosted search engine.

Let's talk turkey, does it really matter?

Yes, casing matters. It carries meaning.

It's the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.

This headline makes it sound like the IT systems of a cosmetic surgeon have been attacked by poultry.


Exactly. "Earth" means the planet we live on and "earth" means soil. The disrespect of the meaning conveyed by not using the correct case is noxious and sloppy.

You guys are being too case sensitive.

Does anything matter? If there are things that matter, grammar is one of those things.

Yes? The country is named Türkiye, we should use that name?

The etymology here is interesting and has a looooong history. The country has officially been named Türkiye for over a century.


And Germany's official name is "Bundesrepublik Deutschland". I get to call it Germany though.

Germany's official English name is Germany[0].

[0] https://unterm.un.org/unterm2/en/view/745bbc2a-fc50-4b94-bb9...


Has Germany said they should be called Deutschland by English speakers?

Is it a right of any nation to assert what other nations call it? Can America ask China to stop calling them 美国 (Měiguó) and call them the USA?

The problem with the turkey rebranding is that it was a mere orthographic update, but it is using orthography that is very non standard(whatever that means for English), including using a diacritic rarely seen in English.

I could get behind it more if they completely changed the name, like a when Swaziland switched to eswatini. But for now, you can pry turkey from my cold dead hands


Yes? It's obviously the case that countries can ask this?

We can choose not to do it, I guess, but place names change all the time. Istanbul vs Constantinople. New York vs New Amsterdam. Myanmar vs Burma. Czechia vs Czech Republic. Swaziland vs Eswatini.


> But for now, you can pry turkey from my cold dead hands

Big fan of Thanksgiving foods I see.

(Do you see the real problem? Lowercasing a proper noun that has another meaning when lowercased. Turkey/Türkiye is just the cherry on top)


Yes, compare Czech Republic-> Czechia. No problem typing that out, no problem updating my mental map of the world.

Frankly I dispute that Türkiye can be the English name given it contains a non-English letter.


I was gearing up to suggest that diaeresis very absolute valid English, but dug in a bit. It's not just a u with a diacritic. Ü is a separate letter in Turkish, with a more "ooh" or "ouh" like sound. TIL.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)


> if they completely changed the name, like a when Swaziland switched to eswatini.

It's "Eswatini" with a capital letter and no, it's not a complete change. In both cases the word means the place of the Swazi/Swati people. If you're not aware that Southern African languages use prefixes such as "e-" as well as suffixes (like e.g. the suffix "-land" in English) then I guess it's harder to recognise the word stem. But they are related terms, not a "complete change".

1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swazi_people


It's governed through the United Nations[0].

[0] https://unterm.un.org/unterm2/country


If you need an example, look at the Peking->Beijing transition.

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin Turkish still uses the old term. Why should I change my language to suit them if they won't do it for others.

That attitude is, frankly, pretty misanthropic. "Why should I do anything for anyone who doesn't do it for me first" is how you get nowhere.

So here's your why: because they asked you to and you are better at it than they are. If you need smug superiority, you could use that too, I guess.

People change their names and nick names all the time. I don't go and check every value of theirs before I use their new name. It's really not that complicated.


I don't see why I should follow the demands of an authoritarian president who encourages ethnic cleansing in the Caucasus and represses ethnic minorities in his own country. Especially when they won't do it for others.

Oh, extremely fuck Erdogan. Despots don't deserve the time of day. If that's your reason to keep it Turkey, then fine. Probably still not turkey, though. We can check back after Erdogan is gone and see how you feel about Türkiye then.

But not germany.

This sort of language policing is pointless.

I mean it matters here. "turkey" and "Turkey" legitimately have different meanings.

So does 'mark' and 'Mark', that doesn't mean I correct everyone (or myself) every time they/I type my name without using a capital letter.


Ok but are there Wired articles about you?

Words come from the people who use them. The name for a place is in the context of the language and culture that is using the word to reference it.

I will call them Turkiye when they call Greece Hellas, Germany Deutschland and China Zhongguo in Turkish.

Have those countries made those requests?

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin Turkish doesn't seem to respect the wishes of the Chinese government with regard to Beijing.

You and I both know that Turkey would never do such a thing.

Regular Turkish people may not. The Turkish government, in official diplomatic communications, most certainly would if those countries requested it.

I don't think we are required to start calling it Turkey in the vernacular. Regular Turkish people don't have to change their names for countries in their language either. I only pointed out Turkey/Türkiye in my original post to head off smart-asses. Using proper casing for the name is much more important.


Yes! I originally read the headline as "a turkey" because of the lack of a capital T.

They can call themselves what they want, but it unreasonable of the Turks to expect English speakers to write their country's name with characters which are not part of our alphabet.


Yeah I'm not gonna type out the u with an umlaut (?) myself on an message board. If I were writing to the UN or to the Turkish embassy I'd copy-paste it. But lowercasing a proper noun is egregious.

I think at one point in the future we can do a one-shot decompilation with one of the SOTA LLM models.

They 100 percent sit in Russia, which will 100 percent ignore this, even if their identity gets uncovered. So it's perfectly safe to continue for the operators.


They used Cloudflare as a CDN, so now they lose that protection. Additionally, depending on how far up the chain the publishers are willing to go, everything on the Internet eventually leads to Western jurisdiction. For example, even if the servers are located in Russia, Russia's IP range is controlled by RIPE NCC in the Netherlands. RIPE NCC's service agreement specifically says that IP registration does not constitute legal property:

> The Member acknowledges and agrees that the registration of Internet Number Resources does not constitute property and the registration of Internet Number Resources in the name of the Member or a third party does not confer upon the Member or the third party any rights of ownership. The Member acknowledges that any Internet Number Resources deregistered by the RIPE NCC may be re-registered to another party according to the RIPE Policies.

If whatever service provider in Russia won't shut off their site, I imagine that the next step would be getting a court order in the Netherlands to revoke that provider's IP range.


At this point they might finally make an onion v3 domain. Not sure why they haven't done this yet.

You get censorship resistance and it also doesn't leave a trail that leads to your location or requires payment methods. All of which leads to deanonymization.

The main way that an adversary would identify the location of an onion site would be to shut off the power/internet in various locations. That would be an unlikely step against some book piracy, imo.


I would imagine that implications of that would be big, it won't be swift, it will be very slow and steady, but big. See GPS for reference.


Yeah I don't think it would be a good thing, but I also think that just the threat of having their IP range cut off would make the provider drop them. The point I'm trying to make is that the actual provider hosting the content is far enough down the chain of command that sovereignty doesn't really matter if someone is sufficiently motivated to kick you off the internet. In practice I think this would lead to them hopping around providers or just going Tor only.


I think if RIPE tries to force their hand without Russian courts, it will be the start of the end of the Global Web as we know it.


It might be simpler/faster to get US based transit providers to block the Russian ASN


Are you just making that up


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there is no confirmed origin for the archivist but only speculation they might be russian or eastern european?


The water cooling system then serves multiple functions, including acting as a radiation shield.


This type of approach carries a significantly higher operational risk compared to operating multiple Kubernetes clusters on separate VMs or physical hardware. If you eventually update the main Kubernetes cluster that manages the virtual clusters and something goes wrong, you could potentially bring down your entire fleet of Kubernetes clusters all at once.


I don't think this is intended for production


Then why would SuSE spend money on it?


> You're telling me there's no "notify me when domain X becomes for sale" service?

I guess in today's age you would just schedule an agent to check the website every day.


Geez who did you offend? Half your comments are dead for no obvious reason I can tell. Vouched for you but you may want to reach out to @dang.



Wouldn't that be rather inefficient, from a resource perspective?


Is open source and commercialisation an exclusive or?


Because Opus on $20 CC is a joke. The $19 plan on Kimi has actually workable usage limits.


The operators are likely based in Russia, and the US has no jurisdiction there. As a result, they can simply ignore any US actions and continue their operations.


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