True that. not only the best opening line,but also one of the greatest lines ever written

This question is not even in top 5 pages of Ask HN. can anyone explain me why? There are no flame wars going on here , and people have come up with Good explanations too.

Good Argument. Then Do you believe in More is better?

Good gosh, no. For example, I am with Einstein: make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. ie, There is a right amount of everything. I guess I am also with Goldilocks, then. I said, "More comfortable", but Americans have nicely demonstrated how in excess that leads to obesity and diabetes. So now we have learned that true comfort comes from a bit more exercise and a lot less garbage food, and now we have come full circle: life is not futile. People ridiculed in the 60s for espousing healthier diet finally got heard and made the world a better place. Did you see the recent news about Coke/Pepsi in decline? Kaching.

If you are talking about Pizza, yes, If you are talking about headaches, no.

Can you point out the fundamental error. Reasoning is always welcome

Actually I didn't say that I don't want Abstract concepts. I don't want concepts which do not proceed by logic .

Well, there is a certain enjoyment that comes from living – doing the things one enjoys. I don't know how one could argue that enjoying life is futile. If one is currently unable to do the things they enjoy, he/she should figure out how to fix it (see the general plan in previous comment). If one does not enjoy anything, he/she should try new things to discover what he/she enjoys. Not wanting to do such a discovery may be a sign of poor environment / life situation, medical conditions (depression), or general laziness. Each of these is generally solvable. A person who is truly determined to improve his/her life usually succeeds at the task, sooner or later. The key is to take the matter in their own hands rather than expect life to get better by itself. If anything I'd say ding so is a prerequisite of adulthood.

Good Argument until "This intellectual latitude is what separates you from a rock.

Oh, well, it sounded good at the time. :)

Were you objecting on the basis that the rock has some version of consciousness? The argument has been made and it's interesting, but I thought it was pretty far afield from the present topic.

>The argument has been made and it's interesting, but I thought it was pretty far afield from the present topic.

Well your argument was right on Topic.Are you referring to any other topic.

>Were you objecting on the basis that the rock has some version of consciousness?

No i took it personally :)

Whoah, very sorry -- it wasn't meant as any kind of criticism, solely that rocks aren't usually thought of as conscious entities.

It's just that one theory of consciousness is that we shouldn't be trying so hard to locate it in ourselves for the reason that all matter has consciousness. I emphasize that this idea has zero scientific support, it's just a philosophical speculation.

Again, no offense intended -- not at all.

There isn't a lot of scientific evidence for anything related to conciseness.

Science is based on observation, while we experience consciousness. And as the Buddhists, say you can't observe an experience.

> There isn't a lot of scientific evidence for anything related to conciseness.

Or consciousness either. :)

But it's true, whichever spelling we use -- consciousness is a subjective, philosophical area with no real scientific substance, and it will probably remain that way.

I was only joking. No offense is taken.

they should give an apology

The previous UK government under Gordon Brown already apologised for Alan Turing's treatment.

They should give a royal apology

this is cool