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Because unlike airline and medical industry, the auto industry does not have regulation around user experience.

Normalized functionality is required by law for air and medical to reduce risk of operator error.

The auto industry does not have to consider a confused operator killing someone else. That risk is on the individual driver, not a hospital, airline, or airport.


Because what are we working on?

Amazon is running out of people willing to work in its warehouses; gig work gets old fast.

Low unemployment is unsustainable if it’s unfulfilling errand running.

There’s little net new invention going on in entrenched big tech; Bezos and co are riding high on mathematical inference by accountants; it’s a math scam being forced upon people who can’t “see” how he’s not really invented anything new; distributed computing under unified api; wow.

Capturing eyeballs is easy when the masses are oblivious; the biological quirk religion stumbled upon is being intentionally manipulated.

Except for nation state prestige, there’s little net new coming out of all these tech companies; writing apps and todo lists? Come on. Video games? 40+ years old. Better chat bots? Meh.

Story mode still rules; we’re iterating on the childhood nostalgia of 70-80s kids who also happen to be the early tech boom crowd; shock. Where is the net new? We’re getting faster with higher resolution.

Propping up the dollar in lock step with history. Which is why I believe all the pipe dreams about singularity and rockets to nowhere will never happen; kids growing up with these things will see sooner than the elders who were mesmerized by this stuff that it’s all “nuclear powered rocket cars” again.

Generational churn is what’s creating the rocky situation politically. Society will stabilize on a “new normal” as more of the 50+ crowd dies off. And the normal the 20-30s crowd wants is progressive; they’ve not lost their desire for political change as they age into their 30s like prior generations did as inequality still controls their life; prior generations lost their progressiveness as they bought houses and had families; something even 30 year olds cannot do; the elders have monopolized having a good life. The young want to be represented by like minded people and are just waiting out the resistance.

80% of last gens Fortune 500 are gone. Electoral turnovers flush corruption and open up economic gains for public: https://www.nber.org/papers/w29766

Same will happen as the elders with monopoly on politics die. Chip companies aren’t going anywhere, but HN is a filter bubble; there’s little dedication to these stupid software companies among the young; see FB use tanking among teens. No one I know under 40 cares about Metas verse, but it was on Today the other day! They’re gaming the clueless. The veil is pierced and frankly software as an industry deserves it; most is copy-paste work while everyone else grows their potatoes.


> Video games? 40+ years old.

As a gamer, I find this is incredibly dismissive.

There's still tons of new ideas in games being explored. Factorio introduced the factory building genre in 2014, and we're still seeing new takes on it. Satisfactory made it first-person and beautiful. Dyson Sphere Program made it multi-planet and interstellar. Captain of Industry made destructible and moveable terrain.

The colony sim genre as we know it today did not exist 10 years ago. Now we have RimWorld, Banished, Oxygen Not Included, and more.

Even puzzle games continue to innovate. Baba is You is probably the most unique puzzle game I've ever seen, and then there's all the Zachtronics games...

So yeah...the product of "video games" might be 40+ years old, but it's silly to claim that there's nothing net new coming out.


I think OP was referring to major new verticals... Video game vertical is 40+ years old now. Sure still lots of innovation happening within the vertical, but anything that is going to change the trajectory of humanity?


I think it's silly to expect every innovation to "change the trajectory of humanity".

Sometimes people just want entertainment and that's fine. Based on the OP's response to my comment, I wonder if they consider leisure time to be wasted time.


Humans went millions of years entertaining themselves without computers.

Why keep chucking real resources down the drain for Zachtronics? If you want logic puzzles there are simple paper books full of them.

This is peak entitlement; the future must cope with your leisure preferences. Not voting rights, or clean water; you are owed video games.

You would defend until the end your right to not sacrifice any scrap of figurative identity. How incredibly dismissive of future peoples entire existence.

Launch the nukes, Putin. If we’re just going to iterate like mindless dweebs into collapse of the species why not go out in a blaze of glory; that would truly be metal af


> Humans went millions of years entertaining themselves without computers.

More like a couple hundred thousand years, not millions, but that's a moot point.

Humans went thousands of years without a lot of things. This is not a convincing argument.

> Why keep chucking real resources down the drain for Zachtronics? If you want logic puzzles there are simple paper books full of them.

False equivalency.

I could easily turn this around and ask why chuck resources on publishing puzzles on paper when I can do them digitally.

> This is peak entitlement; the future must cope with your leisure preferences.

Really? Enjoying spending my time on video games is "peak entitlement"?

> Not voting rights, or clean water; you are owed video games.

Textbook whataboutism.

> You would defend until the end your right to not sacrifice any scrap of figurative identity. How incredibly dismissive of future peoples entire existence.

Yes...I'm sure me playing a few rounds of Legion TD 2 or a couple hours of Final Fantasy is going to threaten the existence of the future.

> Launch the nukes, Putin. If we’re just going to iterate like mindless dweebs into collapse of the species why not go out in a blaze of glory; that would truly be metal af

You are either mentally ill, an extreme workaholic, or a troll. Please seek help.


Don’t diagnose me over an air gapped network.

What’s that? I’m not chanting the traditions the way you would? So I’m mentally ill? That’s some traditional values BS.

Peak entitlement; anyone who isn’t enabling your figurative identity is some sort of broken thing. Childish reasoning.

Paper and pencil don’t require nearly the same level of toxic waste and slave labor; so false equivalence.

You can’t say false equivalence and have it be true you have to actually quantify why their damage is the same; again childish logic.

Peak entitlement is that you aren’t giving a damn what video games cost everyone in real terms, you’re hung up on living in your bubble and expect billions of others to coddle your feelings like mommy and daddy did. But if you’re putting it out there you have no obligation to consider others sensibilities before your own; fuck yours too. Who cares about one of seven billion whose parameters are pretty similar to billions of others, since you like logic and stats so much.

Less than 13% of the public have greater than a bachelors. While polls show most Americans think it’s 35-40%. The world is not composed of as many like minds as you think. You’re outnumbered.

“Work” is a term defined in physical sciences; my biology “works” 24/7. I loath “job culture”. Hanging in a hammock by a river last week my imagination conjured up numerous story threads for a space opera. Video games are someone else’s imagination.


Virtual Reality is an increasingly popular vertical that's emerged in the mainstream in the last decade. Mobile gaming too.


I have built engines for my own games and worked with the big engines; I’ve modded games going back to Doom.

I’ve built game loops and models; I know how games work.

The suggestions you cherry picked still do not come with any fundamentally new technology behind them as it’s still a machine of known constraints.

Rockets to nowhere is nostalgia for the Spaceship. Cherry picked games are nostalgia for playing Super Mario. It’s all a huge waste of real resources, the real deficit we’re leaving the future, since the fiat money one is a shared hallucination detached from that material reality.


Games are entertainment.

Part of the frustration I have with the game industry is taking themselves entirely too seriously.

It's like watching Dr Seuss search for some deeper meaning outside of simply entertaining and teaching children.

Why can't being entertaining be enough?


Why would you try and find physical evidence of a mental hallucination except brain activity?

Capitalism does not “actually exist”. It’s learned constraints on agency. I can’t just walk into Musks house and eat his food.

I can’t walk into Tesla and alter products due to my meat bag not being referred to as billionaire Elon Musk.

How much more evidence story mode still runs the world do you need?


Would be a blast if the cloud is up ended by RISC and GPUs powerful enough to crunch “big data” at home.

Would love to see FAANG and SV crash and burn, margins chipped away to nothing.


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