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Perhaps named closing tags like `</section>` are a factor?


Or users will realize that a trashy ads experience is bad and switch to a service that isn't trashy.

I don't understand why there's so much fearmongering about ads when heavy competition + zero switching costs will effectively guarantee good UX.


Zero switching costs? Maybe the way I use AI, where I don’t really need it to know about me and I just ask it knowledge questions. A lot of people seem to be trying to make it a friend who knows everything about them.


> Or users will realize that a trashy ads experience is bad and switch to a service that isn't trashy

AI service can be so sophisticated that most will not notice the manipulation.


Almost any online service has plenty of competition, but it doesn't prevent enshittification once one of them proves that you can squeeze more revenue out of users and get away with it. Netflix charges you the same as five years ago, but you now get ads. You pay for Amazon Prime and get ads. You pay for Spotify, but they now serve you AI music from fake bands to avoid paying royalties to humans. The end game is that all consumer LLMs have ads in the free / cheap tier.

And as other folks are saying, the whole point is that it's a different type of an ad: it's not an annoying pop-up or an unskippable video. It's a subtle recommendation that you don't even notice. High conversion rates, little fatigue... getter than all the cool characters smoking in films a while back.


> I don't understand why there's so much fearmongering about ads when heavy competition + zero switching costs will effectively guarantee good UX.

I mean literally every other technology sector has gone the other way, but i'm sure this one for reasons will be completely different. I mean of course, it just makes sense.


Sometimes the big trashy company buys the better rival, and then trashes it.

Edit - just stumbled on this :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Upf_B9RLQ


Handy is great but I wish the STT was realtime instead of batch


There’s a tradeoff here. If you want streaming output, then you lose the opportunity to clean it up in post processing such as removing filler words or removing stutters, etc., or any other AI based cleanup.

The MacOS built-in dictation streams in real time and also does some cleanup, but it does awkward things, like the streaming text shows up at the bottom of the screen. Also I don’t think it’s as accurate as Parakeet V3, and there’s a start up lag of 1-2 secs after hitting the dictation shortcut, which kills it for me.


I feel like this is a solvable problem. If you emit an errant word that should be replaced, why not correspondingly emit backspaces to just rewrite the word?

I feel like this is the best of both worlds.

Perhaps a little janky with backspaces, but still technically feasible.


Why is this relevant at all?

Having humans in the loop at some level is necessary for handling rare edge cases safely.


The word "loop" here has multiple meanings. Only one is what you mean and the other person responding to you has understood another.

The first is the DDT control loop, what a human driver does. Waymo's remote assistants aren't involved in that. The computer always has responsibility for the safety of the vehicle and decisionmaking while operating, which is why Waymo's humans are remote assistants and not remote drivers. Their safety drivers do participate in the DDT loop, hence the name.

But there's also another "loop" of human involvement. Sometimes the vehicle doesn't understand the scene and asks humans for advice about the appropriate action to take. It's vaguely similar to captchas. The human will usually confirm the computer's proposed actions, but they can also suggest different actions. The computer the advice as a prior to continue operating instead of giving up the DDT responsibility. There's very likely a closely monitored SLA between a few seconds to a few minutes on how long it takes humans to start looking at the scene.

If something causes the computer to believe the advice isn't safe, it will ignore it. There have been cases where Waymos have erroneously detected collisions and remote assistants were unable to override that decisionmaking. When that happens, a vehicle recovery team is physically sent out to the location. The SLA here is likely between tens of minutes and a couple hours.


If that’s true the system isn’t finished. That’s what reasoning is for.


Who ever said they were finished? You think the laid off the team since everything is “done”?


The AI market is an infinite sum market.

Consider the fact that 7 year old TPUs are still sitting at near 100p utilization today.


Speak for yourself. I've been insanely productive with Codex 5.2.

With the right scaffolding these models are able to perform serious work at high quality levels.


He wasn't saying that both of the models suck, but that the heuristics for measuring model capability suck


..huh?


The consumers are getting huge wins.

Model costs continue to collapse while capability improves.

Competition is fantastic.


> The consumers are getting huge wins.

However, the investors currently subsidizing those wins to below cost may be getting huge losses.


Yes, but that's the nature of the game, and they know it.


> Model costs continue to collapse

And yet RAM prices are still sky high. Game consoles are getting more expensive, not cheaper, as a result. When will competition benefit those consumers? Or consumers of desktop RAM?


The free market has simply decided these consumers are not as relevant as the others.


Maybe the free market is wrong.


It can’t be. Those uses are suboptimal, hence the users aren’t willing to pay the new prices.


Not really. Investors with hundreds of billions of dollars have decided it. The process by which capital has been allocated the way it has isn't some mathematically natural or optimal thing. Our market is far from free.


Saying "investors with hundreds of billions decided it" makes it sound like a few people just chose the outcome, when in reality prices and capital move because millions of consumers, companies, workers, and smaller investors keep making choices every day. Big investors only make money if their decisions match what people actually want; they can't just command success. If they guess wrong, others profit by allocating money better, so having influence isn't the same as having control.

The system isn't mathematically perfect, but that doesn't make it arbitrary. It works through an evolutionary process: bad bets lose money, better ones gain more resources.

Any claim that the outcome is suboptimal only really means something if the claimant can point to a specific alternative that would reliably do better under the same conditions. Otherwise critics are mostly just expressing personal frustration with the outcome.


As long as China continues to blitz forward, regulation is a direct path to losing.


Define "losing."

Europe is prematurely regarded as having lost the AI race. And yet a large portion of Europe live higher quality lives compared to their American counterparts, live longer, and don't have to worry about an elected orange unleashing brutality on them.


If the world is built on AI infrastructure (models, compute, etc.) that is controlled by the CCP then the west has effectively lost.

This may lead to better life outcomes, but if the west doesn't control the whole stack then they have lost their sovereignty.

This is already playing out today as Europe is dependent on the US for critical tech infrastructure (cloud, mail, messaging, social media, AI, etc). There's no home grown European alternatives because Europe has failed to create an economic environment to assure its technical sovereignty.


Europe has already lost the tech race - their cloud systems that their entire welfare states rely upon are all hosted on servers hosted by American private companies, which can turn them off with a flick of a switch if and when needed.

When the welfare state, enabled by technology, falls apart, it won't take long for European society to fall apart. Except France maybe.


welfare state enabled by cloud services/technology?

I'm not sure if you know less about europe or tech.

> Except France maybe.

sure


You mean all paths are direct paths to losing.


This will absolutely help but to the extent that prompt injection remains an unsolved problem, an LLM can never conclusively determine whether a given skill is truly safe.


> And not delivering products

2024 revenue of >$100b is quite impressive for not delivering any products


You know what they mean. Full self-driving was promised what, 10 years ago? Tesla Roadster? Sub-25K car? etc etc etc


I should say delivering promised products.

Anyway they just canned the S and X lines so that's done as well...


What kind of nonsense is that. SpaceX 2024 revenue barely broke $10B, if that. Launch was probably ~$4B and Starlink probably ~$5B. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and double those just for shits and giggles and that's still less than $20B and you're claiming >$100B? Horse shit. Nonsense.


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