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Except regulations are what got us here in the first place? At least in the US, zoning is a recent invention with racial motivations. Cities want to be dense because that is the cheapest way to build. That is why basically every city older than a 100 years old that hasn't been wrecked by zoning is dense. Suburbs are an unnatural product of abundant land in the US, the invention of automobiles, and zoning.


It's environmental as much as it is zoning that drives the development you see.

You literally can't build the kind of "concrete jungle" that you used to be able to because of environmental.

Like a store with a few parking spaces up front, the building and an alley around the back to one parking space (for the staff) and the dumpster is literally illegal without a multimillion dollar stormwater treatment system or a bunch of extra land (i.e. suburban sprawl).

This is also why you only ever see <low number> family houses on 1/16th to 1/8 acre (depending on the sqft of the house + parking) and the it jumps right to N-over-Y megacorp apartment blocks (maybe with retail on the bottom).


Zoning is about 100 years old, and it's not the reason Manhattan doesn't have enough groceries. And ultimately, market forces almost always win over regulations.

Reformulate the question: why do people tolerate living in dense tiny apartments, without easy access to necessities like childcare and grocery stores?


Manhattan doesn't have enough groceries? Do you have a source for that? Everywhere in the city I go has plenty of grocery stores.


You don't need tiny apartments to have density. You can do it with smaller single-family houses on smaller lots, narrow one-way streets, and alleyways for parking instead of driveways and garages. This is how the pre-war streetcar suburb of Riverdale, Toronto is designed [1] and it has much higher density than the rest of the city.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWsGBRdK2N0


> You don't need tiny apartments to have density.

Sure, it starts with "just do row houses" and "missing middle" and in two generations it becomes "we should allow SROs".

> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWsGBRdK2N0

That's a propaganda channel that "conveniently" ignores everything against their narrative.

These kinds of density still require cars. Unless you want to have a stay-at-home spouse who can do full-time housekeeper duty (like in that Toronto neighborhood).


...that's a pretty disingenuous take on zoning, which has many other motives beyond racism.

For example zoning keeps industry away from residential, preventing disasters like the West Texas Fertilizer explosion.


It's funny that people always bring this up, but I don't see what centrally planned mandatory setbacks, height limits, and parking mandates have to do with preventing industrial accidents.


Must we have extremes? I could live near ”no explosives” zoning, while still allowing at lot more than is typical today.


The state claims jurisdiction on pretty much all the "seriously heavy" industry people like to trot out as though it would be in your back yard if not for zoning. The local towns don't get much of a say and even when they do the projects are high dollar enough that if the town won't grant it then they'll win on appeal and it'll be no big deal.

Aaaand, the real kicker is that the towns typically can't fight too hard because a lot of zoning provisions they'd use are not up to the legal standard it takes to do battle with a megacorp and they'd rather keep them on the books as they are than have the megacorp's lawyers pick them apart.

So you can still have Chernoybl in your back yard with zoning.


Immigrants still do this. Except now they fill apartments and houses with bunkbeds. I know because my dad did this in the early 2000's and is still in contact with the local immigrant community.


I think many Americans have the impression that this violates the terms of their lease, and without other-country kinship connections and networks, they’re not aware of how to find people who would lease under high occupancy conditions. It may even be illegal. So we may need to explicitly make these legal again so Americans will rent in this way.


There is a ridiculous perception that privately run high occupancy housing is abusive. I don't understand that at all. They are running a business that is compassionate enough to offer, at the bare minimum, shelter from the elements. If there is competition in that market, as there used to be, then the bad actors go out of business.

Like many things I think the answer is less regulation to prevent possible bad things from happening. Accept that bad things might happen and punish the people that do bad things.

I agree, this kind of renting needs to be allowed. If I rent a bed to somebody for 10 bucks a night in my home nobody is harmed and somebody had a warm place to sleep.


>If I rent a bed to somebody for 10 bucks a night in my home nobody is harmed and somebody had a warm place to sleep.

Disagree, you can have impact on your neighbors. We had SFH doing that near me, they had 9 people in 4 BDRM SFH. That was 9 cars so all street parking was occupied. Trash Company sent notice to our HOA wanting price increase since they were generating a ton of trash (some of it commercial I believe) It was much noisier than average home since they would do more outside bringing noise like listening to music inside, outside with noise problems that develop.

County finally shut it down and most of neighbors were thrilled.

There is a reason for zoning laws and it's not 100% NIMBY but yes, your actions can have impact on your neighbors.


What different worlds we live in. If I had a problem with my neighbors making too much noise during "quite hours" I would go talk to them. But, my neighbors are only blasting music for occasional personal parties, 4th of July and New Years. Everybody likes to celebrate, I'm not going to begrudge them for having some fun.

On the trash I'm a bit confused. The HOA should have paid more if the neighborhood was generating more trash than the trash company had negotiated to take away. If everybody didn't like this house why didn't the HOA make rules to restrict it. Isn't that the point of an HOA?


It can also be incredibly dangerous in the event of fires.


It seems homelessness and deaths of despair are also dangerous though, so maybe we should reassess the risk adjusted proper balance of standards?


It's very team/org dependent and I would say that's generally not the case. In 6 years I have only had 1 team out of 3 where that was true. The other two teams I was expected to juggle feature work with oncall work. Same for most teams I interacted with.


Interesting, I've been here nearly that long and every team I've worked with its generally the way I described. Do engineers always do that? No. But it is the expectation


City Nerd made a good video on how crime statistics often incorrectly compare to a cities overall safety: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m4jG1i7jHSM


You don't pay for the externalities of using a car. Nobody does. That's why people are hostile towards cars.


Dead people and their friends and family certainly do.




Your weight is 100% within your control. There is no luck like there is in business, a career, investments or overall health

Survivorship bias is irrelevant


Choice isn't binary, it's a continuous distribution. There are thousands of factors influencing the power you have over your weight. That's why I'm thin and I don't try at all, and other people are overweight and cry from trying so hard.


Are we in agreement that for someone without specific medical issues, gaining weight is caused by eating excess calories?

What other factors influence that outside of you making the choice to eat something?


Can you just make the choice to solve P versus NP? Or climb K2? There's a lot of factors that affect a persons ability to make any choice. Willpower, knowledge and experiences, time, intelligence, etc.


There's thousands of factors that influence you making that choice, some factors in your blood, some from your childhood, and some from how your day went.

I'm very lucky that the stars aligned, so I don't have to try at all. Really, zero effort.

Others have to try very, very hard every day of their life. They need to think about what they're eating constantly. Do you know when I think about what I'm eating? Never. I just eat whatever I want, whenever I want.


Take a look at the voting data for Prop 1A. It is very likely HSR would not have been approved in the first place if the central valley had been excluded. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_...


> likely HSR would not have been approved in the first place if the central valley had been excluded

Then don't build it. That money would have been far better spent improving urban metro and regional rail. (And airports and roads and charging stations, et cetera.)


That money did literally improve urban metro and regional rail–Caltrain electrification came out of it.


> That money would have been far better spent improving urban metro and regional rail.

CA HSR was the political lever to get funding to improve urban metro and regional rail, so, in a sense, the money was spent doing that.


> Then don't build it. That money would have been far better spent...

...only literally anything else!


Did it have to be funded by a proposition? Could the CA legislature not have passed a law?


Tax increases and bond measures have to go through the voters. The alternative is to get enough of the legislature, including probably some in Central Valley, to agree to cut a bunch of other more popular programs in order to fund it out of the general fund.


I dug into this a bit since these comments were just confusing, but apparently Prop 13 required tax increases to get a 2/3 majority of the legislature.

So it seems like Prop 13 just fucked California.


Correct. What is the point of having a representative government with a legislature if you just forcibly remove the lynchpin of power for that type of government?


That's the point. Props 13 and 8 were part of the republican anti-government movement often memorialized by Norquist's remark about making government small enough to drown.


The motivations and rhetoric are before my time. What’s leftover is just this stupid counterproductive set of laws undermining the legislature’s ability to legislate.


What does California do with all its income?


Props 13 and 8.

Highly recommend Paradise Lost by Peter Schrag. Raising revenue requires supermajority voter approval in most cases. A huge chunk of the budget is already allocated by voter mandates and the legislature fights over the scraps.


Same shit. Different State. Maybe a little extra compared to a Red State or a smaller State, and on a larger scale. You can dig into it here: https://ebudget.ca.gov/


> Did it have to be funded by a proposition?

Yes.

> Could the CA legislature not have passed a law?

To fund a long-term capital project? No, for a number of reasons. First, at that time, the CA legislature couldn't practically fund anything reliably (budget process is Constitutionally mandated to be annual, and at that time required a 2/3 supermajority to pass, which caused regular budget crises.) Second, and more importantly, structurally, to fund major capital projects, debt financing is required, and California cannot, Constitutionally, issue bonds without voter approval. Prop 1A was a legislative initiative amendment -- that is, the legislature had to pass a bill to put it on the ballot -- to secure that approval.


Differentiating between them is impossible until things go wrong. They can treat you as family 99% of the time, but when the options are: take a pay cut or fire some employees, in my experience everyone goes with the latter.


Seasoning doesnt matter. In all 3 cases, the key factor is temperature control. I can make eggs in all three types of pans with no sticking and no seasoning. Seasoning is only to protect the metal from rust.


Proper scrambled eggs only works in telfon for me. By proper I mean nice and creamy with small curds, not some dried out brain goop.

I totally love my stainless tho.


I have found seasoning doesn't affect the stickiness of the pan. My MIL left my carbon steel pan sitting in water, so I had to grind it to the bone to remove the rust. But even with no seasoning, I was able to cook eggs no problem. The key is temperature control. However, the pan started getting rusty from just sitting out, so I ended up re-seasoning it anyway.


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