Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | warkdarrior's commentslogin

Is this a "nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded" moment?

More like texting, nobody likes the phone system, but everyone you know is on it

When texting took off, it was the easiest (only) way to send instant text based messages between friends wherever you were, even if the phone system is now heavily used by spammers and there are better options.

When Facebook took off, every Myspace page was so full of garbage that they barely loaded on most people's computers, and Facebook was slick and shiny and easy. The real name policy made it super easy to connect with people you met IRL. Even if it's now confusingly slow and FB Messenger can't display your recent chats in the correct order for some reason, it was the easiest most obvious option at the time.

I don't really understand why people use Twitter (at its best it just seems like a worse version of RSS), but the site presumably loaded quickly at some point and was easy to use, even if it's presumably worse now.

And so on. They persist through momentum.

Some things continue to persist, some things get beat out and die. But if you start off more confusing than your alternatives, at least compared to when they started, you won't get picked up in the first place.


> I don't really understand why people use Twitter

The honest answer is that it isn't the content(RSS feeds), but the combat sport nature of the platform. It's the only place where you can tell a billionaire any kind of awful thing you can think of. It's also the only social media that drives important people insane. The wealthier they are, the more insane they'll be driven.

Facebook will drive your meemaw insane with AI generated ads of legless veterans being given a cake.

Twitter will drive the richest man on earth insane. It will drive every journalist at any paper of merit insane by interacting with the insane billionaires. Nearly every journalist who uses twitter enough will develop delusions of grandeur that their brand of psychopathy is the solution to the nation's woes. Since their bosses have also been driven insane via twitter, it's the kind of writing that gets published. This writing will take the insane delusions of the insane billionaires at face value. It will go along with conspiracy and never beg any question that actually needs answering.

It's truly a unique and addicting environment.


Twitter drives them all insane the same way that we used to marvel at the way celebrities got driven insane by fame. The feedback is going straight to their heads and they are losing touch with reality isolated in their little bubbles the same way celebrities get isolated from reality through their wealth.

Instagram makes texting look positively motherly

Typically crowds don't shove billboards every third person

It's a great doc, I've been training my HN bot on it.

> No one is happy…except greedy executives and shareholders.

It is a fairly effective system to extract money from customers (patients) while also ensuring that patients do not use too many services (afaik, US population has shorter life spans than rest of Western world).


The consumer apps use RAG and traditional search to give the LLM recent information in the prompt when it answers your query. This basically bridges over the knowledge gap between the end of training and today.

I'm fully aware, I'm just wanting to point out to people that the actual AI apps they'll use can and do return recent information due to integrations like that. Lots of people think AI can only answer stuff in its training set, but it can answer anything from whatever data you hand to it, including any data on the internet.

Lots of AI tools can easily answer "who won the basketball game last night".


GCP is sort of blending this into their Gemini APIs.

https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/google-search

You don’t have to do RAG or use a serp scraper MCP, just add the Search Grounding tool to the APzi request and it does the rest at the model’s discretion and $0.014 / search.

I think that’s generally a fair price for my time vs doing my own search queries at 1/100th the speed. It could get expensive for deep research type queries.


The pricing may be reasonable, but Grounding with Google Search has extremely restrictive terms of use.

https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/terms#grounding-with-google...


yup, I looked at it GwGS and it's not interesting. I want actual results, not a summary and some links to sites (not pages), then to go crawl those pages

Don't want Google as the middleman between the internet and my agent. Their search has become so bad I don't even use it any more


Off-the-shelf AI can replace workers in their twenties and AI fine-tuned over a few months for your company's needs can replace workers in their forties. Problem solved!

>> As for how: DRM-like tech in the hands of users should allow for that.

> If it's in the hands of the users, i.e. open source, it can be disabled at any moment, which is exactly what my reply already addressed.

The point is that with the help of hardware-backed DRM on the client, the Matrix server could send data only to unmodified clients. You modified your client in a way that does not match what the Matrix server expects? No data for you.


You're repeating the same thing with more words. If you cannot control your hardware-backed DRM, then Matrix requires proprietary blobs to work.

Can't speak for OP, but open source allows the community to check for spyware inserted to exfil data to the company and its partners.


As much as I'd appreciate more open source for the sake of transparency, binaries provided on websites aren't guaranteed to match the source code provided and I'd assume most users are pulling binaries versus building themselves.


Practically every platform has multiple software stores these days and many FOSS stores make their build logs available. Some take it a step further and provide reproducible builds, which is more or less there as far as source to binary traceability and binary trustworthiness is concerned. These are good enough reasons to open up the source, ignoring the other advantages just this once.


This is true, and this is where trusted repositories come in.

I don't necessarily have to trust each individual app on fdroid or in the Debian repos. I have trust the maintainers are building them properly, and those people are not the same people developing the core app.


The ability to do so provides some protection. If someone pulls and builds and cannot reproduce the binaries, they can at least try to get the word out. Closed-source prevents even the opportunity. Even source-available is better than closed.


Why would and what incentive does Kagi have to put 'spyware' in a browser?


??? why does any company do it? Money?


Any company?

Don't you think if Kagi introduced spyware it would ruin their reputation quickly, why would Kagi want to quickly ruin that brand reputation?

The answer is that there is no incentive for 'spyware' on Orion as you can pay for Orion+ to support development.

https://kagi.com/onboarding?p=orion_plan


My concern is Kagi isn't/doesn't make as much as they need/hope to with their brand model. If they are ever disappointed in the results of building their brand, it's quite easy to see why they would be fine selling out.

Hell, WhatsApp started out as a privacy focused messaging app before selling out to Facebook/Meta. Now it's getting ads, nobody believes a privacy focus anymore, it's had a commercial message channel push, and so on. They are far from the first example of a tech company/product trading the mission/brand value for more money.

Bless the VLC developer for refusing offers for millions of dollars to put crap in VLC even though he knows the project could just be forked after and bless Gorhill for the same on uBO but the real trust in these things comes from the code being open source rather than faith the developers would never sell out.


> Do you believe banning [leaded gas] was a bad idea because it resulted in a lot of people losing their jobs?

Who lost their job when leaded gas was banned? A web search did not give me any examples.


The Ethyl Corporation primarily, they had to quickly diversify and adjust their business model as a result of the US phase out of tetraethyllead. They managed to stem some of the bleeding by simply just...selling the rest to other countries before they instituted their own restrictions on leaded gas (which tells you how ethically sound said business was) but this was a massive change at the time considering just about every vehicle used leaded gas even if it was a slow rollout.


As a team lead, working with people is so... cumbersome. They need time to recharge, lots of encouragement, and a nice place to work in. Give me a coding agent any time!


As a PM working with team leads is so cumbersome...


I wish I could automate PMs :-p


They don't like working on the cumbersome tickets, writing tests, documentation. Talking to businesspeople.


> I liked the book Winning by Jack Welch more

Jack Welch the sociopath?? Or is there another author with that same name?


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: