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Turns out going outside and interacting with strangers is actually quite good for you too.

For me, the ethics of investing is a bit more profound. I see stock market investment and share holding to be one of the main drivers of civilisations obsession with endless consumption and growth. To me those things are damaging to our minds and our planet. This is just doing the same retarded shit we’ve been doing since the end of the war. Personally I feel like we need to turn a corner now; ease-off this obsession with accumulating as much money as possible for ourselves and focus on our communities, our families, living in balance with nature, and securing a healthy future together with new values and goals that last. Investing into the stock market is like the opposite of this. Just my opinion.


Why are you buying shit from China?


Apparently it's even hard to make molds in the US. China seems to be the top dog in the production chain. From design, to mold, to production, to packaging.

Fstopper has one or two nice videos about it. Can't even buy US made glass bottles that fits his needs in the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xewpuM1eJRg


It's very difficult if not impossible to avoid. Just how many hours do you want to spend doing research for _every single_ household item? It'd be genuinely difficult, and even plenty of stuff which claims to be "made in the USA" is actually just assembled here. It's possible to look these things up, but that takes time and it's difficult to get absolute certainty. And not all stuff from China is terrible, either. It's just an opportunity cost which is nearly impossible to avoid given just how common so much of the crap from China is.

A normal person who doesn't want to upend their life might have a few easier baby-steps: buy as little stuff as possible, and buy used whenever possible. The original country doesn't see any real direct benefit when you buy used.


It just depends how important you think it is to chose who gets your money, where raw materials are coming from and how things are made. I happen to think it’s the most important global issue right now. Come at me.


Its very difficult to buy something "made in china" that is actually made there, not just assembled there. Even if you get something like a DJI drone, you can do some quick research and find out the guts (SOC) is from a company in California using IP from Europe/USA (arm).


That's a good point as well: where do you draw the line? If I buy a car, were the screens made in China? Is that a sufficiently small portion of the car to render it acceptable? If so, what about every remaining part in the car?


Why, don't you? How would you have posted this message if you hadn't?


You got me. I buy old second hand phones because the planet is full of mugs.


I've started buying clothes from China. Quality and style is starting to really improve.

Makes you wonder how much we've been ripped off for years.


As a 6'5" male westerner finding the right size is next to impossible.


While you can't go off the standard S M L sizing scale, if you know your measurements you should be able to find something suitable


Ripped off? I think it’s more that you are ripping off people from other countries, whilst undermining your own economy and draining your country of meaningful work. It’s nice to pay your neighbour properly for the work they do. How much clothes are you actually buying and why? The clothing industry is a horrible one, riddled with waste and slavery. You been to the factory where they’re making your clothes have you? Wake up man. This shit matters.


It cuts the middleman, supermarkets and online stores are 90% Chinese dropship these days. Why pay the 50-500% markup?


I have no idea what you’re talking about. What the heck are you people buying?! I mean, after some pots and pans and a couple of t-shirts what else is there?


I'm very frugal but I buy some electronic parts every now and then, last time I bought a titanium hiking pot, $12 instead of like $50 locally, same factory, the only difference is that the brand is not stamped on it


That's partially a euhpemism for imported stuff. But more to your general meaning the point of the article is that there's not a lot of slack. The US is pretty close to fully utilized and there's not a lot of slack to start making stuff here instead.


It's better quality. The people there are skilled and well-educated, and the factories and machinery are modern.


Where are you getting your shit from?


I have a deal with Cologuard.


Down the road where I can.


why not? I like high quality products at reasonable prices


I am delighted to hear from the actual FedEx’s own Chuck Noland! Getting this post to appear on this website using only vellum and iron gall ink is an incredible feat. Could you share some about your process (in many months time obviously)?


See this can be the issue with posting on the internet without directly using Chinese-built electronics: you have to periodically remind your seneschal what your various shorthand terms mean or they will make mistakes like forgetting what “ctrl+D” means and assuming you meant “downvote” and not “bookmark”


> How is that the opposite of what he actually said?

> If a faithful Christian argues against cherry-picking the Bible

Talks about what Charlie “actually said”, proceeds to strawman him.

Mate. You literally got given evidence that debunks an idea you’d like to believe and you still continue to believe and argue for the idea you’d want to be true.

Let it go. You’re egos too big and you’re acting like an idiot. Do you consider yourself an idiot?


I literally got given evidence that confirms exactly what I said.

You understand that making a claim and linking to a video doesn't automatically mean the claim is correct, right? Sometimes the video doesn't prove what it's said to prove. In this case, Kirk very clearly said that Leviticus, including the "kill gay people" part, is "God's perfect law." He says that you can't take "Love your neighbor" from it without also taking "Kill gay people." He describes the commandment to kill gay people as part of "the truth."

To be very clear: I'm not parroting anyone else's interpretation of Kirk's statements. I'm taking the above directly from the video of Kirk talking.


What Brexit lies?


350m for the NHS.


Why should we care what economists think? Kind of a genuine question.


Right. I think if you decide to kill someone you are, by definition, a nutcase.


That stance would make every police station, military base, and legislature madhouses. Heck, we could expand that a step further, and declare everyone who voted for those politicians mad.

People decide to kill people all the time. People order others to kill people all the time. People advocate for others to order yet others to kill people all the time. Some violence is legitimate. Some violence is justified. Plenty of violence is neither. But to ignore the violence of the state as sanctified, while condemning all violence against it as madness results in an alarming ethical framework with abhorrent conclusions.


I keep seeing this. Why do people keep making the point that if you can make an accurate shot from 200 yards with a rifle that makes you a sane person?


We're mixing sanity with belligerency. Someone in the heat of passion doesn't plan out a 200m shot, alongside an escape route.

I think that's the mixup. You can be insane but still perform some very calculated plots.


People generally use really crude (and incorrect) heuristics when judging others. "He was a family man/good christian/nice to me at work/etc, I don't know how he could have murdered his family!" Mental illness gets it even worse b/c most people don't have any good framework for understanding it.


I don't understand, you think there aren't enough trans shooters? Just the right amount!? Am I making the same mistake as you?


Neither am I!


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