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Samsung has reputation on the line with millions to lose, unlike fake engagement account on Reddit.

If Samsung cared about their reputation they would have stopped releasing garbage electronics a decade ago and anyone suggesting putting ads on a fridge (and a high end one at that) would have been fired the same day they suggested it.

Somehow it all happened just in time to coincide with the release of this big show: Samsung rolling out ads(a big story in its own), Pluberis (or whatever the name of the show) from the creator of the Breaking Bad on Apple TV, schizophrenic sister that is named Carol.

Totally NOT made up.

Not related at all, but I have this very exciting business idea – you can make billions, can you contact me via email in my bio? Not a scam, 100%.


> schizophrenic sister that is named Carol.

Name matches will happen regardless of the name chosen for a fictional person. "named Carol" specifically vs other names is an irrelevance. You put too much on it.

> Totally NOT made up.

Once more for the hard of reading, I refer you to what I said earlier, "We don't know the truth of this at all."

> but I have this very exciting business idea – you can make billions,

It looks to me like you want to rant people you have invented, who hold positions that I do not. I'm sorry that you can't parse nuance, but I think I'll keep the sceptical lack of faith in your position that I used earlier.


> Once more for the hard of reading, I refer you to what I said earlier, "We don't know the truth of this at all."

I’m still awaiting your email, good luck!


> I’m still awaiting your email,

Then you failed to read and understand what I wrote at all. And so there is no point in further written conversation. Good day.


Whole OS?

There are driver blobs for the underlying device which they can't do much about, and then there are the last vestiges of Lipstick (the Sailfish OS UI), which are not released under an open source license. That's hardly "the whole OS", since everything else is a plain linux distribution.

Basically all the middleware in Sailfish OS was always open source and many of the apps as well. They have been also IIRC finally open sourcing the primary apps as there are no longer pesky external investors forcikg them to keep things closed for weird reasons.

This doesn’t show OS, sadly. Only a list of some features that nobody outside of geek cultures care. Show flashy videos, images, gorgeous animations.

If someone from jolla reads this: Just hire DHH as your hypeman, he’ll be able to sell anything to lemmings.


> hire DHH as your hypeman, he’ll be able to sell anything to lemmings

Nah, they can have this slogan for free: "Yo, with Jolla YOLO!"

Anyway, I wish Jolla well.


> I am not sure what has happened over the decades regarding actually being proud of the work you produce.

Millions of boocampers and juniors trying to make a quick buck; any tech work that is not “make it, and make it quick” is punished; tech debt swept under the rug; any initiative is being shut down because status quo is more important; “we’ll optimize when it becomes a problem” on 15 seconds page reload; dozen of layers of parasites and grifters making your life hell, because their paycheck depends on it; salary bumps that don’t even cover inflation – the only way to actually move in life is to join, raise as much hell as possible in 2 years and jump ship leaving the fallout for the next SOB in the line.

And that’s just what I bothered enough to type on bad iOS keyboard.


You'll care when there will be no physical media and you're left with compressed shit shown down your throat.

> You'll care when there will be no physical media

Physical media is on the way out for the most part, where it isn't already gone, and Netflix & co are the reason, not piracy.

> and you're left with compressed shit shown down your throat.

WRT “compressed shit”: the quality of ahem copies is often no worse than you'd get from an official streamed source. For those that have 4K-capable eyes it is often better as it JustWorks™ without quality dipping out due to bandwidth issues at the streamer, your ISP, or somewhere between, or for local playback needing a long fight to convince your Sony TV to accept that Sony media player connected via a Sony brand cable is legit.

I actually pay for a couple of streaming services (though Prime largely begrudgingly as it got rolled into the delivery service I use), but still get media from ahem other sources because the playback UX is often preferable.

Or if by “compressed shit” you are referring to the intellectual quality of the content not the technical merits of the medium, if it all turns to mush I'll just watch even less than I already do the same way I practically never game these days (though that is due to both content quality and technical matters). I've got other hobbies competing for my attention, I can just live without TV if TV quality falls further.


I believe the GP was referring to most quality rips originating from physical media (ie. 4K UHDs).

In a world without physical media, the best piracy can deliver is no better than the best encoding streamers have available (and that assumes DRM circumvention remains forever possible, otherwise we're gonna get worst quality from re-encoding decoded playbacks)

> the quality of ahem copies is often no worse than you'd get from an official streamed source

"No worse than streamed" is a far cry from a quality high-bitrate 4k UHD physical release.


> "No worse than streamed" is a far cry from a quality high-bitrate 4k UHD physical release.

Fair point, especially for people with eyes good enough (or screens huge enough) to get the benefit (so, not me!) and who are paying attention enough to notice anyway (so, not a great number of the viewing public).

It is worth noting that "no worse then streamed" generally, even if taken from a streaming source, it's going to be better than most viewers will get streaming because those capping the stream for redistribution are far more likely to have jumped through all the hoops needed to get the best streaming has to offer (paying for the best streaming has to offer, is usually not sufficient).


> In a world without physical media, the best piracy can deliver is no better than the best encoding streamers have available (and that assumes DRM circumvention remains forever possible, otherwise we're gonna get worst quality from re-encoding decoded playbacks)

I wonder if we can use modern tech to get high quality screen recordings.

By "screen recordings" I mean pointing an actual camera at a screen and by "high quality" I mean some sort of post processing involving automation to remove noise and other artifacts.


> I can hardly blame a company for not supporting a product almost nobody wants to go back to.

But that logic we should keep only insta, tiktok and youtube shorts.


Unfortunately, that may yet become a reality.

Remind me in 20 years when we have old people complaining nobody is supporting traditional social media

They already do, no need to go 20 years further.

> What's the attraction to the physical media given the availability of these versions online?

Where do you think they've got the version that circulates the net?


> how did these companies drop the ball so bad

Companies didn't, leadership did. For a big, fat check. And they're happily retired now, sitting in their expensive villas with millions on their balance.

They couldn't care less about your happy childhood memories that the content produced by their predecessors engraved in your mind.


I am not attached to any memories, I am remarking that a company that is currently 170~B market cap allowed a tiny upstart become a 460~B company when they had all the means and distribution to have stop them or outcompete them at many stages of the ascent.

Really, it is probably an inevitable and somewhat healthy feature of life and the business cycle, but it is also baffling to witness.

When I was at Amazon, I came away feeling that the gap between retail and Amazon was too large and the disruption was warranted. But in the case of Sony, it feels they were so much closer to the space that it feels like a much bigger own goal...


1) Put JS in maintenance mode, don’t add any language features, only runtime

2) TS becomes the official mainline, whoever doesn’t like types can just keep writing as they did before, because valid JS is valid TS

Problem solved, it’s not that difficult.


TS trademark is owned by Microsoft.

That would be a case of out of the frying pan into the fire. Not really better.


Call it ES2026 officially and let other people devalue MS' trademark as they refer to that (and later versions) as TS.

...and we'll have another API warfa^H^H^H^H lawsuit that we had for Java.

Wasn't that a copyright issue? I thought the point of contention is that Google allegedly copied Oracle's API design when they re-wrote Java for Android.

Wouldn't Microsoft do the same thing when somebody copies the language and names it "TypedWebBrowserScriptbutFree"?

https://github.com/microsoft/TypeScript/blob/main/LICENSE.tx...

The license is Apache 2.0. With the trademark, they can tell everyone not to call their thing TypeScript but at this point, given the license, they can't tell them not to copy it and change it and distribute that new thing (assuming the new distributors do so under the correct conditions).


Same as Go and Google then. Is the ownership of the trademark of the name/logo of a FOSS language really that big a deal?

That's the entire issue here: JS is a FOSS language and they don't like that Oracle owns the trademark.

Oops. Outing myself as someone who didn't read TFA.

Valid JS is often not valid TS. Any nontrivial amount of JS copied into TS will generally not work without tweaks. When people say TS is a superset of JS, it's just some academic definition of syntax supersets that isn't practically true.

Non-exhaustive examples:

    let foo = 2
    foo = "foo"  // TS disallows type change
    let bar = {}
    bar.baz = 2  // TS disallows adding property

The amount of weird TS I see that attempts to keep the JS style of code while getting the compiler to stop being mad is strange. I will see hundreds of line of type inference work, when they could have just made an actual type.

I feel like most people using TS are not doing it by personal choice but because someone else decided it

I see this happening with people who are thrown in to coding TS, with little or no training / time to educate themselves.

Even syntactically, TS is not a superset of JS: https://anemato.de/blog/js-to-ts

So it's a "sodium chloride" thing. Oh I hit this case too, and even this article looks familiar, probably cause I googled an error message

Or, just delete both and use dart.

ah yes, the regressive approach

3) remove js and its derivatives from the internet, switch to lua or smth

OT, but I learned Lua this year in order to be able to write a mod for a game, and maybe this is due to it being a while since I last used a dynamic language regularly, but Lua really feels like it's basically what JavaScript was intended to be. Both use a map-like data structure for basically everything, with integer keys to make them act like arrays, function values to make them act as objects, but Lua using an explicit function call in `for ... in` loops avoided needing a separate construct to be added later on for iterating over arrays in order (or having to resort to manually iterating over the numbers rather than the array itself). Lua's module system reminds me a lot of how Node's `exports` works (although nowadays I understand there are other ways of importing/exporting stuff in JavaScript), and it's not obvious to me that the power of prototypes in JavaScript are worth the extra complexity over using the module system for the pre-ES6 model of OO that JavaScript used. I feel like Lua basically already has solved most of the stuff that JS has needed to add a lot of new features for in recent years. I imagine this is something that a lot of people were already aware of, but at least personally, even being cognizant of the flaws that JS had been trying to fix, I hadn't realized an already well-established language had a design that solved most of them without also having a lot of additional scope beyond what JS was trying to do (e.g. Python having full-fledged class-based OO) or at least superficially looking a lot different (e.g. some form of lisp, which I know had been at least talked about in the early web days as a potential option but might have faced more of an uphill battle for adoption).

Should be easy, it’s not like there’s any legacy code out there written in JS.

Yes, because that's a pragmatic and realistic solution.

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