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Is "I" Jay Liew, though?

no: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1058850

Does it matter? mmmm, I can't say the wiki is better, at least for time being. A social network would work, not a wiki.



Hey guys, no .. it's not me "Jay Liew", although I'm not sure why that would matter.

I've watched the flurry of activity and up until this moment people are still editing .. hanging out on the Google Docs. I'm sure it's been a real learning experience for everyone who participated, especially those who have been watching closely. I wonder if I should write up a "lessons learned" blog post.

If you step back you'll see that it's amazing how the HN community got together to collaborate and provide feedback, and now people attempting to improve on the initial idea of all the co-founder data in a flat table on Google Docs spreadsheet.

Ultimately we'll see if the market decides if they want something other than a flat tabular data or not.

That's why we're all here, right? We want to "make something people want".

p.s. shoutout to Paul from UCSD who's graduating and is helping out 280 North (I met him for coffee after we found each other, thanks to the Google Docs).


thanks :-)

I told you I spend too much time here :-P


Perhaps a YC account on LinkedIn, which you could then befriend, allowing you to find others all friends with YC on LinkedIn? Just an idea. Seems like the simplest thing that could work well, without building a separate social networking site just for startups.


I think for this endeavour, a wiki works well.

Not everything needs a social network :)


Yes, I took the data, and refined it just a bit. I had to do it for about 170 of entries. A semantic wiki is better than a plain Google Doc, by having the ability to run complex queries, such as: Search for a startup located in "Florida", in the "mobile" space, who needs someone with "ruby" skills. This is all "out of the box" thanks to the Semantic Mediawiki extension

Of course this is less fancy than your regular recruiting/social networking site, but the simplicity of it must be a plus. (you don't need an account to add/edit). The success of the Google Doc idea is also due to it's simplicity.


You can't delete pages, and people can still mess with your page: it should be locked to targeted underlying user. Also, there's no spreadsheet view, which makes it almost unusable to me: do you expect users to open 100+ tabs?

The wiki is about startups, but you sourced it from data about people. I am not a startup, I am a person.


Yes, you can delete and move/rename pages, but you need to create an account for that. This is supposed to prevent vandalism. Not sure why would you need a spreadsheet view. You can always use plain search. And than there is semantic search, which I plan to add soon. Having all that data in a structured database (every field/property in a page is query-able in a semantic mediawiki app).

About people vs. startups, you are right, they are no the same. I'm not sure what to call that entity that is something between an idea and a startup. If you create an account you can list your skills in the "Person form". There will be a search for that.


I just created this account (and one on startuplinkup) b/c while I didn't mind having my email on the Google Doc, I don't want it sitting on the wiki. According to the User group rights only Admins can delete. Care to help (Startup 155)?


Yes, I deleted startup155. A solution to this problem may be to enable the deletion of past revisions, I think there is an extension that allows that.


thanks


Out of pure curiosity, as I'm sure all the startup folks are .. would you mind shedding some light into why you would be ok with your email on Google Docs but not a wiki?

We're interested in learning.


Well, I know for a fact that my email on a traditional web site is going to be indexed and cached by search engines, internet archive, etc, while on the Google Doc, I'm a little fuzzier on how permenant and searchable my email address becomes.

In a nutshell, I wanted to avoid spam; from bots, not from users here.

If I had had this account the other day, I probably would have just added that.


"spreadsheet view" is there. Is just a simple semantic query: http://www.startuplinkup.com/en/Big_startup_matrix




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