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I didn't imply being anti-trump was sufficient for making one center-left. My argument is that a political wing holding the White House and Congress is insufficient evidence for a countries counterculture being precluded from coming from that wing.

The fact that establishment type Republicans (whether in office, writing op-eds and books, or simply voting as normal citizens) are also anti-Trump, strengthens my argument.

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There seem to be at least five possible candidates for a counterculture today: progressives, center-left (the cosmopolitan, coastal, etc.), centrists, establishment republicans, and the portion of Trump supporters that are 'alt-right'(I assume the alt-right populate 4chan and 8chan quite heavily).

The disagreement here seems to be over whether the fact that Trump is in office and the GOP holds the senate, precludes the alt-right from being the countries counterculture. I can see a number of different ways this could evolve argumentatively.

Regardless, to preclude the alt-right from being the counterculture on the basis that the GOP has the White House and the Senate, requires assuming Trump is alt-right, some non-trivial portion of Congress is alt-right, and that for some additional reason these facts preclude the alt-right from being the counterculture.



I wasn't responding to your argument about counterculture - simply the following pair of sentences:

> Can you still not see how center-left politics is the dominant culture? If I watch or read CNN, MSNBC, NBC, Comedy Central, The Economist, The NYT, Washington Post, The Late Shows, The Late Late Shows, pretty much anything coming out of Hollywood, etc. are you suggesting I'll find anti-trump culture to not be predominant within articles and videos I see?

I'm obviously misinterpreting, but to me that sentence ordering does imply that "anti-Trump = center left".




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