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Nature/evolution seems much better at long term goals than us seeing how much damage we've done since we discovered coal/gas.

> Species reliant on one prey or one plant can and do over-consume their food into extinction and then go extinct themselves.

Well, of course, I didn't say nature was immutable, just self balancing. I doubt you can deny that life as we know it is heavily reliant on plants and that doubling or halving plant photosynthesis efficiency would have consequences we simply cannot predict. When simple things such as reintroducing wolves in a park can unexpectedly change the course of rivers [0] I'm really wary of people wanting to "improve" the world by shaping it in such extreme ways and promising the results to be 100% beneficial.

[0] https://wilderness-society.org/wolves-change-flow-of-rivers/



> Well, of course, I didn't say nature was immutable, just self balancing

And that, specifically, is what I’m denying.

Think of it another way: humans are a product of natural selection, so every imbalance we cause to the environment is an example of evolution not being balanced.


> so every imbalance we cause to the environment is an example of evolution not being balanced

Not balanced ? You should look into global co2 level, how it's linked to cognitive performance, climate change, &c. The balance is about to smack us right in the face if you ask me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_feedback


That’s like saying high speed driving is balanced by roads being bendy because bendy roads force you to slow down or die.

And if you want to make that argument, you’re now arguing my point for me ;)

(My stance is that that doesn’t count as balanced. We can still figure out how to drive faster than the fastest land mammal).


> We can still figure out how to drive faster than the fastest land mammal

Sure, that's how we got one of the most polluting industry of the last 100 years, see, all balanced. We took one thing, transport, and made it a priority while ignoring every other aspect, and now we're all breathing polluted air.

Roads are bendy because they follow the topography of the terrain, cars aren't faster because we'll still get fucked by drag no matter how smart we'll get https://i.stack.imgur.com/PKkDf.jpg but we're getting off topic.




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