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Your definition of value would allow saying that "cheating on exams provides value". Which is absurd.

Cheating on exams only provides value for the chater, but everybody else has to pay some price for it.



shrug I don't think I can quickly convince someone of the utility of having both absolute and relative measures of things, there is a difference, they both have their uses, and restricting yourself to one usage and calling all others absurd isn't particularly helpful




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