Human rights are made up. What might be considered a human right to you may not be considered a human right to the Chinese government.

You should be more open minded that different people and cultures have different values.

Wow...

Do you think women shouldn't have rights too, if a country's government doesn't think they are worthy?

That we shouldn't care about the treatment of migrant workers in the Middle East?

Apartheid was fine? Slavery?

I mean, as long as the country's government thinks so, and the "cultural values are different".

It's honestly disheartening to read a comment such as yours here.

Please read my comment in context to what I was responding to. The person who I was responding to said essentially "If a government doesn't follow my values it should be dissolved."

Wow... GP said that human rights are made up and not that he thinks that people shouldn't have any rights, made up or not.

>You should be more open minded that different people and cultures have different values.

So I can start owning slaves, if I claim it fits my values? Or I need to gather some minimal number of fellow slave owners, so I can declare it 'culture'?

That is a more extreme example so by it will make what I say sound more extreme.

>So I can start owning slaves, if I claim it fits my values?

Keep in mind that owning a slave is illegal in many places. Laws are also shaped by culture. So if you moved somewhere were slaves were legal then yes you could.

> Human rights are made up

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on HN.

It's a human idea and a human invention, developed in a certain historical context. Calling it "made up" is pejorative, for sure, but not at all wrong.

It isn't like the Hubble Deep Field has a pattern that spells out "all human beings are born free and equal" or something.

I agree with GP that human rights are made up but would love to hear why and how you think they aren't. That would be a far better read than this pointless post that doesn't contribute anything to discussion.

If you asked me what human rights I have I couldn't tell you. Do I pick stuff from the bill of rights, do I pick stuff from my religion? How do I know what rights I have?

Did you write that?! great turn of phrase though in my brain i needed a comma to place pause, even if not technically correct (lol)

I did. An advantage of Toastmasters is that you start to learn to craft such phrases because they make excellent point in speeches.

A disadvantage is that you put in commas and -- for pause, not for correct grammar.

Nice! I am a big fan of the emphasis comma ;)