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Tesla told France there was no sign of technical fault in Paris big crash (reuters.com)
14 points by giuliomagnifico on Dec 16, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 6 comments


How can we be sure Tesla does not alter log data after the crash has occurred? I know I am implying a criminal act but it wouldn't be the first time and auto maker fudges data.

Over the air updates in cars need some regulations and restrictions.


There are two such regulations in the making by the UNECE atm [1], the R155 regarding cyber security [2] and the R156 regarding software updates [3].

[1] https://unece.org/sustainable-development/press/un-regulatio... [2] https://unece.org/sites/default/files/2021-03/R155e.pdf [3] https://unece.org/sites/default/files/2021-03/R156e.pdf


Apart from the unlikely event of it being malicious I’d assume it is driver error as a case of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unintended_acceleration

Burden of proof and reasonable doubt come in to play - for such a complex system could you prove beyond that there are no dodgy software bugs or that a particle from outer space didn’t flip a bit causing cause something to go wrong?


Also (not only for this case but in general) can you trust the company that they send you the intact logs? Also did the car had the time to upload them? Can't you just get a local person extract the logs?2


I hope for an impartial appraisal, in the meantime:

> PARIS, Dec 16 (Reuters) - The lawyer for a taxi driver involved in a fatal accident in Paris at the weekend said the driver's Tesla Model 3 vehicle had accelerated on its own and that its brakes had not worked.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/paris-crash-tesla-drive...


Don't believe lawyers, they can and are paid to say what is necessary to help their clients, truthful or otherwise.

Why did the article mention Tesla's market cap? That smacks of sowing anti-americanism against a company taking over the EV sales charts in the EU.

One would think the regulatory agencies would have some sort of tampering checks, black box logging is ... what ... 40-50 years old at least?




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