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You are wrong about the budget. But further discussion about it is pointless and will be going in circles.


From what I can find e.g., https://tass.com/economy/1247359 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_budget_of_Russia or https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/two-lean-years-russia... you are incorrect. The last link seems to have good information whether it's accurate or not I don't really know but most figures seem to agree roughly:

> In 2019, revenues are planned to reach 15.555 trillion and expenditures will amount to 16.374 trillion, whereas the deficit will stand at 0.8 percent of GDP. By 2020, revenues are estimated at 16.285 trillion with expenditures at 17.155 trillion

And

> In contrast, military spending rose from 2 trillion, 141 billion in 2013 to 3.775 trillion in 2016. In 2017 it fell to 2.778 trillion, and it will decline further in 2018 to 2.771 trillion, but will grow again afterward, to 2.808 trillion in 2020. It should be borne in mind that the actual military spending in Russia is much higher than the planned figures. Traditionally, additional budget revenues, if any, are allocated to this sector. Moreover, some military expenditures are concealed under other civilian items, primarily under the “national economy.” Police spending rose from 1 trillion, 487 billion in 2013 to 1.898 trillion in 2016, 1.977 trillion in 2017, 2.108 trillion in 2018, and 2.140 trillion in 2020. The share of concealed budget expenditures in 2013 amounted to 13.8 percent of the total expenditure and increased to 18.6 percent in 2017, with a planned increase to 20.1 percent of the budget in 2020. These are absolutely bizarre figures that cannot withstand any comparison with the secret parts of budgets in developed economies. At the same time, a significant proportion of the “secret expenses” most likely does not go to military purposes but simply remains in someone’s pocket.

So expenditures are around 17, and official military budget is 2.7-3.7. There are "secret" expenditures of up to 3.4 of which they don't all go to the military but if they did we would be at 7.1. 41% of federal budget revenue to the military.

Let's see your figures that show it over 50.

> But further discussion about it is pointless and will be going in circles.

I absolutely could be wrong, but I'm not arguing in bad faith here I'm using the sources I can find so you don't need to go off in a huff. And it's not really going in circles because you've refused to answer all my questions about China or acknowledged that the military build up in Europe is not remotely like it was in the 1930s. It's more like it's hit a brick wall than gone in a circle.

EDIT: Either way I find it's pretty arbitrary to be so worried about the exact amount of military expenditure. Would a regime that spent 30% of its budget be better than one that spent 40%? What if the absolute numbers were higher? What if the government raised taxes and other expenditures to reduce the proportion of military spending below the magic 50%? What about as a proportion to GDP? I really don't see why that should make a significant consideration about whether we would go to war with a country. So perhaps you are right and it is pointless to talk to you about this.


> some military expenditures are concealed under other civilian items

That's the main point. And as if you they'll tell you real numbers.

Either way, no need in all this demagoguery. I already explained the basic idea - Putin will stop only when stopped and none of the above is really relevant to that.


How is that the main point? Even with those numbers implausibly all added to expenditure, it's 40%.

Where are your numbers you so confidently stated that I was wrong with? Let's see them.


Not interested in debating irrelevant points. Your intent on whitewashing the situation is major suspect here.


Why did you bring it up if it was irrelevant? Suspicious and very deranged behavior.


Putin's troll likely confirmed. How much are you paid for it?


You're the one spreading misinformation.


Yeah, who one step away from saying it's not a war but "special operation"?


By asking for evidence for your disinformation? Get a grip.




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