Politics ought to be adjusted not to human reasonings but to human nature, of which reason is but a part and by no means the greatest part. -- Edmund Burke

To make a somewhat contra-positive corollary;

If you want to remove politics you need to remove humans. -- Me

HN wouldn't be much without humans.

There are a lot of communities that are functioning way better after they implemented a strict no politics policy. It's a strawman argument. Especially considering the populous of hackernews of which 90% don't believe that they can be manipulated by advertising because they are too intelligent. It's gonna be a shitshow.

As soon as you have more than two people you have politics, regardless of whether it is small "p" politics or big "P" politics. Politics is a function of human communities, there is a 100% correlation.

I suspect what you were looking for is not "no politics" but "be conservative in what you say and liberal in what you hear", i.e. think more of the group than yourself. Or for those who can't read between the lines; "don't be selfish".

No, I mean strict ban on sight no politics like it helped usenet and irc communities in the 90s and helps slack, discord, reddit and other forums right now. Stay on topic or gtfo.

HN tried banning "all politics" once. it was one of the bigger clusterfucks in the history of the site.

It's like trying to ban kindness. Oops, it's tricky.

No, it's not. Snotty comments like yours are also against the rules. There are more than enough examples of communities running without politics.

Again, it's been tried. Doesn't work for a place like HN that doesn't limit itself to topics where touchpoints with politics can be completely avoided. If you think otherwise, at least have an argument for why it should work better this time.

Seems like you're in the wrong about the rules.

Better yet, seems many believe they are absolutely immune to Russian psyops, and of course the West would -never- psyop its own citizens. I've been even called a russian propagandist for linking to WaPo, a well-known Kremlin outlet.

It's probably time to ban politics.

What does it say about quality if you use a trash account and don't bother with grammar-checking? Those things would seem to belie your stated position.

More snot. Sorry that english isn't my first language and that I don't want my real identity known by people like you.

I wonder how many giggle when they read populous where they expect populace

dang.

I think the existing HN guidelines / norms should be sufficient for maintaining civil and constructive discussion. A lot of times public policy is directly relevant to technical topics, and who’s going to be the arbiter between legitimate political discourse and unacceptable (to whom?) politics?

Just stick to curious, good-faith discussion. Downvote flame war and personal attacks to reinforce these norms, but respond instead of downvoting for difference of opinion/viewpoint