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polling is way higher on EU trade and EU membership though and strong support !== necessarily mean strong opposition.

Just a couple google sources before the invasion put it at 69%, 57%, 58% join EU versus 21% wanting the opposite of an economic union with ussr countries.

IDK xtabs or if there is a poll with strong/lean scale, but a strong plurality above 50% is pretty big regardless see another example last link below showing decent majority strong yes with relatively small no.

Main point is that NATO wasn't even on the table for Ukraine.

The first invasion happened after the Ukrainian people chose a new government because Yanukovych refused to sign the EU trade agreement.

I think a lot of countries in their position (like finland) the citizens were rightly worried about poking the nuclear bear by trying to join NATO.

There are more than a few articles and polls out now showing the sentiment has changed now with this recent war.

Finland for example is now above 53% join nato for while only 28% against.

Another example of lopsided enthusiasm painting a different picture of support.

https://www.iri.org/resources/iri-ukraine-poll-shows-support...

https://www.statista.com/chart/26933/ukrainians-survey-nato-...

https://www.eureporter.co/world/ukraine/2021/03/16/ukrainian...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/03/03/business/finnish-swed...



I don't think Ucraine will ever be a member of the EU since that requires the agreement of all member countries.


Maybe. We'll see how this shakes out.

One point I was trying to make was Russia's actions have galvanized support in the opposite direction Putin wanted.

I don't know why what I contributed is worth downvotes. I provided sources showing a difference in EU support compared to NATO support to parent comment and gave reasonable arguments that even a majority in mid 50s of support does not mean the opposition is -100*-1 it's usually way less.




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