And that is why I mentioned there are valid criticisms of the industry.
I personally don't eat meat often, but that's not the point. The broader point is that meat, while wasteful, still provides clear value. That doesn't mean emissions aren't also a problem.
Meat has a history going back to the dawn of man as a primary source of sustenance. It's delicious, and thousands of millennia of evolution predisposes me to enjoy it more than less emitting alternatives.
The fact that meat has value is unrelated to the current state of the industry, which as I have said, is problematic.
The point I'm making is about the intrinsic value of the thing, because the GP wants to compare meat to cryptocurrency.
My point is that they're not comparable, regardless of the realities of mass produced meat and that industry's sustainability problems.
Dismissing issues with crypto as "meh, meat is a problem too" is a little bit like watching the Amazon burn down and concluding "meh, driving cars are a problem too".
Let's say I enjoy trading crypto. What puts that enjoyment as lesser to an equivalent amount of meat consumption that creates the same GHG emissions compared to alternative?
This time without appeal to the naturalism fallacy.
Admittedly not my greatest comment, and my point was lost in the shuffle. But since we're shifting the goalposts now and comparing activities to commodities, let's say the only meat I choose to eat is sourced by hunting wild game. Let's say I did the hunting myself with my own bow.
Will you at least acknowledge the value of meat as a basic form of sustenance?
Are you saying that trading crypto as a hobby (or crypto itself) is equivalent somehow?
> Will you at least acknowledge the value of meat as a basic form of sustenance?
Given that you can sustain yourself with alternatives that are less GHG emitting, you are basically trading GHG for your own personal satisfaction/enjoyment. How is that different from me trading an equivalent GHG to get some enjoyment out of my hypothetical crypto hobby?
> Are you saying that trading crypto as a hobby is equivalent somehow?
Both things that you only do because they make you happy and something you want, not something you need to survive.
What makes a unit of enjoyment gained from trading crypto somehow a less worthy preference than the unit of enjoyment gained from eating a steak rather than a plant-based alternative?
I personally don't eat meat often, but that's not the point. The broader point is that meat, while wasteful, still provides clear value. That doesn't mean emissions aren't also a problem.