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I think the claim is that SPG can also fire in direct mode and they have MUCH bigger guns. Imagine an SPG with trophy system bolted on it. Question is, is passive armour beyond stopping bullets and shrapnel worth it?

I wonder if the new "tank" will be a wheeled SPG that can fire hull down and has an APS system. Or it could be something like BTR 4 with its auto cannon, being able to carry some infantry, add APS to that and you have a lethal combo.

There is also a lot of overselling of infantry support. Stugna or Javelin can kill T80 from 4km away, what use is dismounted infantryman there?



> Stugna or Javelin can kill T80 from 4km away, what use is dismounted infantryman there?

Well they can carry their own Stugna or Javelin. Isn't that an argument for more dismounted infantry, not less?


I don't think they work on people.


https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1534472563681812482 [Ukrainian Stugna-P ATGM strike on Russian troops]

Warning: combat footage, people die...


APS protects against ATGM, not cannon fire.


Well that is the big question, is it worth trying to protect from kinetic penetrator or not.




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