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I suspect this story will be Cambridge Analytica 2.0: making use of the tools sold by big tech to achieve an ideological end.

(Isn't everyone doing this?)



> Instagram and Facebook begin removing posts offering abortion pills

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/28/1108107718/instagram-and-face...


Bluntly, "we" warned "them". We said, "hey, maybe you don't want to encourage mass surveillance of your life in exchange for 'free' stuff; it could go poorly." It's now going poorly and I don't know that it's even possible to undo the damage now...



Are you asking, "aren't left-wing groups saving the information of right-wingers to the later deploy state power against them after changing relevant laws", or "doesn't every ideological group occasionally dox it's opponents"? I think those are different questions.


Doxing wasn't my question; I was just presuming aloud that everyone made use of the tools that Big Tech was selling. I don't see just one side being aware of the possibilities of buying data (nor do I think there are only two sides... it's a spectrum with many fronts).


Makes sense, thank you for clarifying. For what it's worth, I don't think there's really room for a comparable strategy on the left; most of the work being done in social policy on the left is oriented _against_ proscriptive laws, so it wouldn't make sense to similarly collect the information of people doing things now that might be in violation of laws passed later. That is to say, part of the definition of left-wing social policy is that it tends to increase the space of things society allows, rather than reduce it, and so gathering lists of undesirables is not really going to help. I'm sure the Marxist-Leninists would love to try, though.


The cheapest somewhat predictive model for the other humans is that they're just you.

This is why young children fail the Smarties test. They now know the tube has a pencil in it, therefore under this simplified model other children know the tube has a pencil in it and that's the assumption they report when asked.

But under this model if I believe something then that's what you believe too, and if you deny it then you are definitely lying. Loads of Americans resolutely believe that all humans know the Christian God is real, and it follows (under the too simple model) that whatever it is they believe about that God is necessarily apparent to everybody in the world, therefore anybody who says otherwise must be lying.


Ever heard of hate-speech laws? To be fair, your question would need reordering:

Aren't left-wing groups changing relevant laws, then saving the information of right-wingers, then deploying state power against them?


> Ever heard of hate-speech laws?

Yes. Enforcing hate speech laws doesn't involve mass surveillance of an entire class of people, because by definition most hate speech laws only apply to public speech. Enforcing anti-abortion laws, on the other hand, does, or at least these anti-abortion groups think it should and are taking that into their own hands.

> Aren't left-wing groups changing relevant laws, then saving the information of right-wingers, then deploying state power against them?

This does not describe an analogous behavior to that discussed in the OP.




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