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Helping a country defend itself from a flat out invasion and land grab is Imperialism?


Debatable. The 2014 coup was about as on brand for US imperialism as you can get.

Victoria Nuland dictating exactly who would be in and out of the next govt in a leaked state dept recording: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k


The 2014 uprising was a popular movement. Come on. Don’t feed me the Kremlin propaganda that all those thousands of Ukrainians getting beaten and arrested by government goons were paid US stooges. It’s possible for the US to support a movement and for it to also be a genuine popular indigenous movement.

She didn’t dictate anything, we was advising and negotiating. That’s what diplomats do. It’s literally their job. Did they have a lot of influence? Sure. Did the Russians have a lot of influence with the previous lot? Absolutely. At the end of the day though the Americans think the Ukrainian people should have a say, and the Russians don’t.

The reason the Russians took over Crimea wasn’t because of anything the US did, it’s because of what the Ukrainian people chose to do.


Who they would support. But yeah, it stinks anyway.




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