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This is just a classic straw man, because people don’t typically believe that. Or a red herring, because that’s not really the point.

No one here is suggesting that the Soviet Union has a good track record on pollution. People are suggesting that capitalism doesn’t. “Capitalism is the problem” does not imply that the Soviet Union is the solution.

When people say “capitalism is the problem,” they’re often looking towards an ideal — which sometimes exists and sometimes doesn’t — of a better world. That’s not a bad thing. Practically no one would suggest that an authoritarian flavor of communism (ala USSR) is that ideal.



The US was the only country to decrease emissions over the decades while growing our energy output, all countries in the Paris Climate Accord failed to do so.

We did it because of fracking nat. gas replacing coal due to innovation. Capitalism brings a lot of innovation including advancements in green energy too.

Tesla was able to economically compete and take a huge segment away from the automobile giants through capitalism, forcing them to compete and develop EV cars.

I don't see many socialist countries actually doing much, hell Germany still wanted Russian gas so much someone (wonder who) had to blow up the pipeline!


Since the first sentence is an outright fabrication, I don't hold much hope the rest is any better.

https://www.ecosystemmarketplace.com/articles/21-countries-r...


Learn to read. I said reducing emissions while growing ENERGY OUTPUT. Not GDP.

Of course GDP grew for all countries over a decade, if it's not that means your country is doing worse than inflation rates lol.

European countries energy output shrank due to outsourcing their energy to places like Russia (something that recently just bit them in the ass)




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