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Human progress is the act of changing the environment to suit our needs.

Flippantly using "stop destroying our environment" brings to mind a pastoralism that was triumphant in the 90s but is basically unworkable.

Your suggestion requires degrowth, and degrowth would entail a humanitarian disaster of epic proportions



> Flippantly using "stop destroying our environment"

It wasn't flippant. Global warming is one of the greatest dangers facing humanity.

> degrowth would entail a humanitarian disaster of epic proportions

We have no choice, because growth already entails a humanitarian disaster of epic proportions.


It is flippant. "Net zero" has already been an ally to the Russian government in their war on Ukraine.

Energiewende was the renewable transition that primarily offshored responsibility to Russian natural gas and coal when plants weren't running, assuming that the renewables would grow and balance out.

That didn't work so well, and now a European heat wave is saving European lives.

People need heat, and light, and to compute.

The developing world cannot wait for net zero carbon energy, and the developed world cannot just stop all useful human activity to pursue climate goals.

The rhetoric around this is if we "just" had better politics, if the oil and gas lobby weren't such villains, if conservatives weren't sticking their heads in the sand we would be able to make it to net zero while "only" sacrificing things we don't care about, like big gas guzzling pickup trucks.

We are finding out that no, we can't.

Continuing down this line of rhetoric is flippant, or perhaps glib.

There's hope though, even if you believe that climate change will end humanity (it won't) - the status symbol cars are electric, more consumer cars are electric, renewable deployment is proceeding apace and we even have developments in fusion and SMRs.

That's how we win - not with the Extinction Rebellion, but with new people doing diligent work to produce higher and higher standards of living at less and less cost.

Fuel costs money, and nobody wants to use it if they don't have to - economics will eventually win, because the best low or no carbon energy sources require almost no operational cost due to lack of constant fuel input.




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